Is this new suspect revelation just too convenient given the 12th anniversary?

[Brietta]

And that, to me, is reminiscent of all sorts of intolerances.  Take your pick - political, racial, religious, and no doubt there are other instances.

Simply because you believe does not give you the right to lecture or harangue others because they do not accept what is merely your opinion.

WOW!  That is a beaut of an hyperbole.

Please indicate where your accusation pick&mix of political, racial. religious etc … etc bears any relation to the post to which you are replying?

What do you think justifies your aggressive tone?

You seem intent to be upping the ante on intemperate posting here.  Unless you can also show how you can equate lecturing and haranguing with the post you are replying to??
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Please try to temper the tone of your replies … which I’m sure will inspire a more pleasant posting experience for all … as opposed to the war zone I think posts such as yours tend to encourage.

[The General]

WOW!  That is a beaut of an hyperbole.

Please indicate where your accusation pick&mix of political, racial. religious etc … etc bears any relation to the post to which you are replying?

What do you think justifies your aggressive tone?

You seem intent to be upping the ante on intemperate posting here.  Unless you can also show how you can equate lecturing and haranguing with the post you are replying to??
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Please try to temper the tone of your replies … which I’m sure will inspire a more pleasant posting experience for all … as opposed to the war zone I think posts such as yours tend to encourage.

The irony here is that, being so demonstrative, demanding answers to your questions about the content, but simultaneously being equally dismissive of it and demanding a modification of behaviour in a judgmental manner, your post could be construed as hyperbole and aggressive.
WOW!  That is a beaut of an hyperbole.
You seem intent to be upping the ante on intemperate posting here
temper the tone of your replies
the war zone I think posts such as yours tend to encourage

[Erngath]

I view the fact that the investigation as no demonstrable results to show after seven long expensive years of work, as the most most compelling evidence that I can see, that the parents have never been suspects. I Have never said they were either.

They are still my number one suspects.

Who is " they" ?
 Only Madeleine`s  mother and father or do you include anyone else?
And what crime  or crimes do you suspect they have committed?

[Erngath]

They are the AUTOS

I suspect

 
A) The minor Madeleine McCann died in the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort, on the night of May 3rd of 2007;

B) It was performed a simulation of kidnapping;

C) In order to avoid the death [alarm] of the minor before 22H00, it was created a situation of the children's surveillance by the McCann while the children slept;

D) Kate McCann and Gerald McCann are involved in the occultation of the cadaver of their child Madeleine McCann;

E) At this moment, there seems that there aren't strong indicia that the death of the minor didn't happen due to a tragic accident;

F) From what was obtained until now, everything points out that the McCann, as self-defence, didn't want to deliver immediately and voluntarily the cadaver, existing a strong possibility that the same was transported from the initial place of deposition. This situation is susceptible to raise questions about the circumstances under which the death of the minor occurred.

So we suggest that the 'Autos' be sent to the EX.mo Sr. Procurador Geral da R'ublica [General Attorney], in order to:

G) New interrogation of the Arguidos Kate and Gerry McCann;
H) Evaluation of the measure of restraint to be applied in this case;


https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAVARES_ALMEIDA.htm

It's quite disappointing when a response is just the churning out of something which is almost twelve years old.
I had hoped for your own thoughts and beliefs.
 So you are definitely one sceptic whose beliefs have not altered for twelve years in spite of  very lengthy investigations which certainly at the moment do not seem to regard Madeleines parents as the " number one suspects".

[Mr Gray]

They are the AUTOS

I suspect

 
A) The minor Madeleine McCann died in the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort, on the night of May 3rd of 2007;

B) It was performed a simulation of kidnapping;

C) In order to avoid the death [alarm] of the minor before 22H00, it was created a situation of the children's surveillance by the McCann while the children slept;

D) Kate McCann and Gerald McCann are involved in the occultation of the cadaver of their child Madeleine McCann;

E) At this moment, there seems that there aren't strong indicia that the death of the minor didn't happen due to a tragic accident;

F) From what was obtained until now, everything points out that the McCann, as self-defence, didn't want to deliver immediately and voluntarily the cadaver, existing a strong possibility that the same was transported from the initial place of deposition. This situation is susceptible to raise questions about the circumstances under which the death of the minor occurred.

So we suggest that the 'Autos' be sent to the EX.mo Sr. Procurador Geral da R'ublica [General Attorney], in order to:

G) New interrogation of the Arguidos Kate and Gerry McCann;
H) Evaluation of the measure of restraint to be applied in this case;


https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAVARES_ALMEIDA.htm

Do you understand in what basis they made that report... On their misunderstanding of the evidence...none of which was confirmed

[Erngath]

It's even more disappointing that the AUTOS daughter has been missing twelve years.
Those are my own thoughts and it's in spite of the fact there as been a very lengthy investigation, the lack of demonstrable results from that investigation can only viewed as further evidence to reinforce my suspicions.

It's as sure as night follows day, if there was no abduction, there will never be any abductor to arrest.

They weren't your thoughts though and neither have you in my opinion offered any answers to my original questions.
Who are the "Autos"?

Do you believe that his whole latest episode of the investigation has been manufactured and if so , why?

[ShiningInLuz]

WOW!  That is a beaut of an hyperbole.

Please indicate where your accusation pick&mix of political, racial. religious etc … etc bears any relation to the post to which you are replying?

What do you think justifies your aggressive tone?

You seem intent to be upping the ante on intemperate posting here.  Unless you can also show how you can equate lecturing and haranguing with the post you are replying to??
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Please try to temper the tone of your replies … which I’m sure will inspire a more pleasant posting experience for all … as opposed to the war zone I think posts such as yours tend to encourage.

In my day, I would have deleted the VS post as ad hom, because it clearly is.  A poster was characterised in a derogatory manner in a purely hypothetical scenario.

I know that the board has swung largely in favour of 'supporters' and against 'sceptics', but moderators are still expected to abide by the forum rules.

I grew up in a toxic atmosphere of opposing religious beliefs.  Fortunately, I have outgrown that atmosphere.  But the 'supporters' versus ''sceptics' is very reminiscent of it indeed.

I find the labels to be petty and offensive, and the use of them to be counter-productive.  It is like watching immature children squabbling.  As far as I know, all of us are now beyond childhood.  I thought this was meant to be a forum for debate among adults.

And if you need a similar political example, just watch the next PM's Question Time.  I am confident it will be equally immature.

Here's a suggestion.  If you would act as a moderator and delete the offensive part of the VS post, feel free to delete my response.  Will you then have the decency to delete your own aggressive post?  Even though your 'war zone' comment perfectly illustrates my point?

[Mr Gray]

Yes I understand it, you know I do. Because the evidence wasn't confirmed, doesn't stop me using it when forming my opinion. Like I have said before, an alive Madeleine McCann will be the only thing that confirms my opinion is wrong.

So your opinion is, baseless... That's it.. Not based on any evidence... Like the report you quoted

[barrier]

It's quite disappointing when a response is just the churning out of something which is almost twelve years old.
I had hoped for your own thoughts and beliefs.
 So you are definitely one sceptic whose beliefs have not altered for twelve years in spite of  very lengthy investigations which certainly at the moment do not seem to regard Madeleines parents as the " number one suspects".

Any response is likely to be churning out something 12 yrs old,how many times have we read Grange are closing in on suspects.
If its true that 12 months grants are being asked for,you can just imagine how the conversation goes.
Dick:We are on a last lead .
Home Office: We've heard that before:
Dick: No this time its for real.
HO: OK,here's your money,let us know how it's going.
Dick: Will do in 11 months, close to the anniversary we'll have another last lead.
HO: In the meantime whats happening to the 45 murders in the capital so far this year.
Dick: We're on it.

[Mr Gray]

I know that Davel. I have no problem with that. There's still no proof that it's wrong though.

And there's no proof maddie wasn't abducted by an Alien spaceship

[Erngath]

Any response is likely to be churning out something 12 yrs old,how many times have we read Grange are closing in on suspects.
If its true that 12 months grants are being asked for,you can just imagine how the conversation goes.
Dick:We are on a last lead .
Home Office: We've heard that before:
Dick: No this time its for real.
HO: OK,here's your money,let us know how it's going.
Dick: Will do in 11 months, close to the anniversary we'll have another last lead.
HO: In the meantime whats happening to the 45 murders in the capital so far this year.
Dick: We're on it.

I've never had any time for imaginary conversations!

[Erngath]

If you don't like them, that's just too bad. You're lucky you got them at all.

I believe we are getting close to being able to demonstrate that this whole episode of the investigation wasted a whole lot of public money and got it all wrong. If they arrest and convict and abductor I'll be proved wrong. Here's hoping!

I won't bother asking for your thoughts again.
I didn't appreciate how lucky I was to receive an answer!

[Mr Gray]

Is that you opinion?

No it's, a fact... It cannot be proven not to have happened

[barrier]

I've never had any time for imaginary conversations!

Course you do all the time,this ain't real life.

[barrier]

Martin Brunt is talking of two separate leads.

https://youtu.be/KvXdQFH_X7g