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Offline Robittybob1

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #450 on: June 07, 2019, 02:24:05 AM »
Did he say under caution? I don't remember that. He certainly thought it was a mistake to let them 'contaminate' each other's memories. Dianne Webster's change of story is a good example of that. She categorically denied seeing Matt on her way to the Tapas, then 'remembered' it a year later after being 'reminded' by her daughter and son in law.
if not under caution, under oath. Which is caution for the threat is prosecute if it is proven any part was untrue.  I'll have another look.  How else do you stop people just making things up in a statement?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #451 on: June 07, 2019, 06:59:07 AM »
Jim Clemente suggests the Tapas 9 needed interviewing under caution.  Working out when that statement could be used in court is hardly off topic, surely!

Sorry, I didn't hear him say that. I was referring to the arguing and complaining.
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Offline jassi

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #452 on: June 07, 2019, 08:40:03 AM »
if not under caution, under oath. Which is caution for the threat is prosecute if it is proven any part was untrue.  I'll have another look. How else do you stop people just making things up in a statement?


You can't actually stop them, but you can tease out the lies by closely questioning and scrutinising everything that is said, not just accepting things at face value.
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #453 on: June 07, 2019, 09:11:44 AM »
Never answer a list of questions that any Police Force has had to time to consider.  They are psychologically designed to trip you up.

They will only trip you up if you have something to trip over.
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #454 on: June 07, 2019, 09:27:29 AM »
They will only trip you up if you have something to trip over.

exactly people   who are scared of police have something to hide imo

Offline Mr Gray

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #455 on: June 07, 2019, 09:32:30 AM »
They will only trip you up if you have something to trip over.
If there had never been a miscarriage  of justice that would be true... How come innocent people are jailed

Offline Eleanor

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #456 on: June 07, 2019, 10:30:02 AM »
They will only trip you up if you have something to trip over.

This is not true.

Offline jassi

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #457 on: June 07, 2019, 10:31:47 AM »
This is not true.

In what way exactly ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #458 on: June 07, 2019, 10:48:45 AM »
In what way exactly ?

Because innocent people are jailed

Offline The General

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #459 on: June 07, 2019, 10:56:41 AM »

You can't actually stop them, but you can tease out the lies by closely questioning and scrutinising everything that is said, not just accepting things at face value.
Conversely, you can let them be hoisted by their own petard by allowing them to spin any old jive, then investigating their claims and proving the contrary. A set of lies can be equally useful.
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Offline Carana

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #460 on: June 07, 2019, 11:27:47 AM »
They will only trip you up if you have something to trip over.

Which police era, in which country?

Yes, I've been amazed by how cooperation between forensic psychologists and duly trained officers have recently transformed the interrogation process in some countries, with no need for "slippery stairs" incidents.

Offline Carana

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #461 on: June 07, 2019, 11:37:21 AM »
exactly people   who are scared of police have something to hide imo

How have you formed your opinion, Carly?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #462 on: June 07, 2019, 02:33:00 PM »

You can't actually stop them, but you can tease out the lies by closely questioning and scrutinising everything that is said, not just accepting things at face value.
And that is what Jim Clemente said they should do to the statements from the Tapas 9.  You know the ones the PJ should have taken right at the start.    You can't turn the clock back to the beginning again, so it is a very unhelpful suggestion really.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #463 on: June 07, 2019, 04:25:28 PM »
What about when you make stupid suggestions... Such as the whole abduction was a Prank... How can you be so stupid... Fair enough
Have you ever heard of the Butterfly effect?

"The butterfly effect is an idea that says that a small change can make much bigger changes happen. The idea started from weather prediction. Now the term is used for many things; some are scientific, and some are not."

I might have thought the "whole abduction" was the end result of a "butterfly effect" that started with the thought of someone thinking of playing a prank on Kate.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #464 on: June 07, 2019, 04:30:59 PM »
Have you ever heard of the Butterfly effect?

"The butterfly effect is an idea that says that a small change can make much bigger changes happen. The idea started from weather prediction. Now the term is used for many things; some are scientific, and some are not."

I might have thought the "whole abduction" was the end result of a "butterfly effect" that started with the thought of someone thinking of playing a prank on Kate.

I would think everyone on the forum would find that a stupid idea