At Last a Podcast from the Experts.

[ShiningInLuz]

Things that might contribute to a disrupted plan.  Jim Clemente really says Jane's observation is confirmed, which really puts int question which direction the person was walking.  I've always taken Jayne's word for it that the man walked from the left to the right, but if it was Totman he would have, most likely, been walking from the right to the left.

I was watching a TV prog last night about Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer.  He is possibly America's most prolific serial killer.

One of the commentators brought in to discuss/explain the case was Jim Clemente.  I only know it was him because he was labelled clearly as Jim Clemente.

It was late at night.  I am not familiar with the Green River case i.e. I don't know how much of the prog was docu and how much was drama.  So please don't ask details about what the prog or Clemente covered.

He seemed quite affable and quite confident in front of camera.  I presume those qualities may help get him appearances elsewhere.

[Robittybob1]

I was watching a TV prog last night about Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer.  He is possibly America's most prolific serial killer.

One of the commentators brought in to discuss/explain the case was Jim Clemente.  I only know it was him because he was labelled clearly as Jim Clemente.

It was late at night.  I am not familiar with the Green River case i.e. I don't know how much of the prog was docu and how much was drama.  So please don't ask details about what the prog or Clemente covered.

He seemed quite affable and quite confident in front of camera.  I presume those qualities may help get him appearances elsewhere.

Well he has made me question Jane's testimony.  I'm impressed by the way he thinks.  Laura Richards not so much.

[G-Unit]

I understand you're referring to your 'prank' theory, but surely if Gerry is literally just going to check on the kids, then chatting with Jez is just routine. There's no urgency, so he can just about chat to the natural end of a conversation with a casual acquaintance. Which he apparently did.

Jez describes a casual meeting. He is walking north on the east pavement where block 6 is, so he needs to cross to the west pavement where block 5 is as he's going to block 4, which is behind block 5. In doing that he meets Gerry, who is using that pavement to go south from block 5 to the Tapas.
 
Gerry's desciption includes an intentional diversion to speak to Jez. He crosses to the east pavement to do that, then crosses back again to go to the Tapas.

[Robittybob1]

Jez describes a casual meeting. He is walking north on the east pavement where block 6 is, so he needs to cross to the west pavement where block 5 is as he's going to block 4, which is behind block 5. In doing that he meets Gerry, who is using that pavement to go south from block 5 to the Tapas.
 
Gerry's desciption includes an intentional diversion to speak to Jez. He crosses to the east pavement to do that, then crosses back again to go to the Tapas.

All the following is IMO based on the facts as I know them.
If I was Gerry I would be in a different frame of mind.  They had that incident with Madeleine the night before where she had a tea stain on her pyjama top, and they had thought someone might be "looking after the kids while they were out".  He has just been in the room the door had been moved from where he had left it, "more open" than before.  Gerry IMO was fully aware of the possibility of someone hanging around the apartment, so he was in the "fight mode".
He gets out onto the street and sees someone, he approaches and finds it is someone he knows.   Was his suspicions wrong?  One way or the other he has to calm down and converse since he has approached Jez and Jez is a big opponent if there was to be a fight 6' 3" was the number said.

That is a problem, six foot 3 inches of trouble!  No wonder he doesn't see Jane pass by.

[G-Unit]

All the following is IMO based on the facts as I know them.
If I was Gerry I would be in a different frame of mind.  They had that incident with Madeleine the night before where she had a tea stain on her pyjama top, and they had thought someone might be "looking after the kids while they were out".  He has just been in the room the door had been moved from where he had left it, "more open" than before.  Gerry IMO was fully aware of the possibility of someone hanging around the apartment, so he was in the "fight mode".
He gets out onto the street and sees someone, he approaches and finds it is someone he knows.   Was his suspicions wrong?  One way or the other he has to calm down and converse since he has approached Jez and Jez is a big opponent if there was to be a fight 6' 3" was the number said.

That is a problem, six foot 3 inches of trouble!  No wonder he doesn't see Jane pass by.

I don't think it was too dark to recognise Jez from across the street.

[Brietta]

Well he has made me question Jane's testimony.  I'm impressed by the way he thinks.  Laura Richards not so much.

He wasn't there.  Jane Tanner was ... and has been steadfast in her description of the event.

[The General]

I don't think it was too dark to recognise Jez from across the street.

Bobby does sometimes have a whimsical, prosaic way of description.
I think Jez' intimdating stature may have been negated by the presence of his child in a buggy.

[Robittybob1]

Bobby does sometimes have a whimsical, prosaic way of description.
I think Jez' intimdating stature may have been negated by the presence of his child in a buggy.

There could have been a machine gun in that buggy all Gerry knows.  I thought you were the military type.  Situation:  You approach a suspicious person who is pushing a pram.  Don't you think that could be a pram full of explosives as you approach your target?

[jassi]

There could have been a machine gun in that buggy all Gerry knows.  I thought you were the military type.  Situation:  You approach a suspicious person who is pushing a pram. Don't you think that could be a pram full of explosives as you approach your target?

But the place was so safe   

[Robittybob1]

But the place was so safe   

Gerry was lulled into a sense of security, but it doesn't turn out like that.

[The General]

There could have been a machine gun in that buggy all Gerry knows.  I thought you were the military type.  Situation:  You approach a suspicious person who is pushing a pram.  Don't you think that could be a pram full of explosives as you approach your target?

That was actually the MO in some places, except they forgot that, in the main, Derry men never pushed a pram in their lives.

[Robittybob1]

He wasn't there.  Jane Tanner was ... and has been steadfast in her description of the event.

What has she said since SY said the man she saw was identifies as another MW guest?

[Brietta]

What has she said since SY said the man she saw was identifies as another MW guest?

I seem to remember her saying she felt vindicated and relief. But since then, like everyone else who is a witness she has kept her own counsel in the midst of the investigations presently taking place on Madeleine's behalf.

[faithlilly]

I seem to remember her saying she felt vindicated and relief. But since then, like everyone else who is a witness she has kept her own counsel in the midst of the investigations presently taking place on Madeleine's behalf.

Do you have a cite for Tanner’s ‘vindicated and relief’ comment ?

[Robittybob1]

I seem to remember her saying she felt vindicated and relief. But since then, like everyone else who is a witness she has kept her own counsel in the midst of the investigations presently taking place on Madeleine's behalf.

That was news to me.