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Offline Robittybob1

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #495 on: June 08, 2019, 09:58:15 PM »
That was actually the MO in some places, except they forgot that, in the main, Derry men never pushed a pram in their lives.
MO - Modus Operandi

but in the McCann case MO is usually Matt Oldfield.

So in times of trouble a man pushing a pram is suspicious.  Did I get that right?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #496 on: June 08, 2019, 10:03:02 PM »
I don't think it was too dark to recognise Jez from across the street.
Well even if he could, does it change the situation?  Something like 95% of abductions are done by family or their acquaintances.
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Offline The General

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #497 on: June 08, 2019, 10:05:41 PM »
MO - Modus Operandi

but in the McCann case MO is usually Matt Oldfield.

So in times of trouble a man pushing a pram is suspicious.  Did I get that right?
Absolutely. A man pushing a pram towards an army checkpoint would raise alarm bells. They swiftly moved on to bombs driven in digger buckets - not quite as discrete, but effective nonetheless.
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Offline The General

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #498 on: June 08, 2019, 10:06:38 PM »
Well even if he could, does it change the situation?  Something like 95% of abductions are done by family or their acquaintances.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #499 on: June 08, 2019, 10:15:04 PM »
Absolutely. A man pushing a pram towards an army checkpoint would raise alarm bells. They swiftly moved on to bombs driven in digger buckets - not quite as discrete, but effective nonetheless.
Well with Gerry's connections to Ireland maybe he is not entirely relaxed about it either.  I've often wondered if there isn't an IRA connection to the case. 

OK if Gerry checked out Jez he still hasn't explained to the door being moved in the apartment.  Was he right?
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Offline The General

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #500 on: June 08, 2019, 10:17:28 PM »
Well with Gerry's connections to Ireland maybe he is not entirely relaxed about it either.  I've often wondered if there isn't an IRA connection to the case. 

OK if Gerry checked out Jez he still hasn't explained to the door being moved in the apartment.  Was he right?
Can't say. I mean, I would suggest it is very likely that Maddie would have got up at some point for any number of reasons, so the position of the door is an odd statement to make. Unless you knew it was completely closed or completely open.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #501 on: June 08, 2019, 10:18:07 PM »
That's right. Joey shagged Rachel IIRC.
Is that case related  Rachel is actually Rachael Mampilly in the McCann case.

Who's Joey?  "Joey shagged Rachel"
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Offline The General

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #502 on: June 08, 2019, 10:19:28 PM »
Is that case related  Rachel is actually Rachael Mampilly in the McCann case.
err.....yeah....that's right [looks around sheepishly]
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #503 on: June 08, 2019, 10:22:29 PM »
err.....yeah....that's right [looks around sheepishly]
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Offline barrier

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #504 on: June 09, 2019, 06:48:09 AM »
Well even if he could, does it change the situation?  Something like 95% of abductions are done by family or their acquaintances.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #505 on: June 09, 2019, 07:28:39 AM »
MO - Modus Operandi

but in the McCann case MO is usually Matt Oldfield.

So in times of trouble a man pushing a pram is suspicious.  Did I get that right?

Gerry wasn't troubled in the slightest. Someone had apparently moved the children's bedroom door, but he wasn't bothered; he was quite happy to go back out and leave them.
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Offline Erngath

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #506 on: June 09, 2019, 08:17:24 AM »
Gerry wasn't troubled in the slightest. Someone had apparently moved the children's bedroom door, but he wasn't bothered; he was quite happy to go back out and leave them.

Do you believe that he suspected at that moment that someone was in the apartment and had moved the door but he wasn't "troubled in the slightest" and suspecting that this intruder would abduct his daughter, he wasn't" bothered" and " quite happily" left her to that fate?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #507 on: June 09, 2019, 09:05:24 AM »
Do you believe that he suspected at that moment that someone was in the apartment and had moved the door but he wasn't "troubled in the slightest" and suspecting that this intruder would abduct his daughter, he wasn't" bothered" and " quite happily" left her to that fate?

He noticed when he entered the apartment that the door to the children's bedroom was half open, rather than 10cn open as he'd left it 30 minutes earlier. He Ithought it was 'strange'. He wondered if Madeleine had gone to sleep in his bed to avoid the noise created by the twins. That wasn't the answer, she was in her bed fast asleep in the exact position she had been in when he left her.

I had a similar experience once. I always checked my children when I was going to bed, and one night I found the loft hatdh, which was in my girls' room, open. My husband was away at the time. I didn't go and get into my bed I sleot in that room with my children right underneath that open hatch.  If someone was going to come out of the loft I was there to do my best to protect my children.

Gerry went back to the restaurant, even though he had no answer to why that door had moved. According to his wife he told her the children were 'doing well' and also told her he had bumped into Jez. He didn't mention the bedroom door, which he surely would have if he was concerned about it. He wasn't bothered. but he should have been imo.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #508 on: June 09, 2019, 09:12:52 AM »
He noticed when he entered the apartment that the door to the children's bedroom was half open, rather than 10cn open as he'd left it 30 minutes earlier. He Ithought it was 'strange'. He wondered if Madeleine had gone to sleep in his bed to avoid the noise created by the twins. That wasn't the answer, she was in her bed fast asleep in the exact position she had been in when he left her.

I had a similar experience once. I always checked my children when I was going to bed, and one night I found the loft hatdh, which was in my girls' room, open. My husband was away at the time. I didn't go and get into my bed I sleot in that room with my children right underneath that open hatch.  If someone was going to come out of the loft I was there to do my best to protect my children.

Gerry went back to the restaurant, even though he had no answer to why that door had moved. According to his wife he told her the children were 'doing well' and also told her he had bumped into Jez. He didn't mention the bedroom door, which he surely would have if he was concerned about it. He wasn't bothered. but he should have been imo.
You managed to fall asleep in the belief that there might be someone up in your loft?? Incredible!  How do you explain the open loft hatch to yourself now?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: At Last a Podcast from the Experts.
« Reply #509 on: June 09, 2019, 10:18:22 AM »
You managed to fall asleep in the belief that there might be someone up in your loft?? Incredible!  How do you explain the open loft hatch to yourself now?

My point, of course, is that I took an unusual occurance seriously and took what steps I could to keep my children safe, unlike Gerry McCnn. I will pm you the whole of my atrange story.
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