At Last a Podcast from the Experts.

[Robittybob1]

There was no door move until Kate's check in his first statement on 4 May 2007.

"At about 21.05 the witness came to the Club, entered the room using his respective key, the door being locked, went to his children's bedroom and checked that the twins were fine, as was Madeleine. "He then went to the WC" where he remained for a few moments, left, and bumped into a person he had played tennis with and who had a child's push chair, he was also British, he had a short conversation with him, "returning after that to the restaurant."

"At about 21.30 his friend Matt (member of the group) went to the apartment, where his children were and on his way went to the witness' apartment, entering by means of a glass sliding door that was always unlocked and was located laterally to the building. He entered the bedroom, he observed the twins and he did not even notice whether Madeleine was there, as everything was calm, the shutters were closed and the door to the bedroom was ajar as usual. "After that Matt returned to the restaurant."

"At about 22.00 it was his wife Kate who went to check on the children. She entered the apartment by the door using the key and saw immediately that the door to the children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the blinds were raised and the curtains were drawn open."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm

Well could Matt have seen into the room if the door was ajar as usual?

[ShiningInLuz]

Well could Matt have seen into the room if the door was ajar as usual?

He saw the twins breathing, which is a particularly stunning feat.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Gerry offered neither of those explanations though.

To whom?

[Vertigo Swirl]

In fact he specifically said that Madeleine was just as they’d left her.

As to the door being blown by the wind, if such a mundane thing had happened Gerry would have acknowledged that may have been the case instead of being surprised at the door’s movement.

You are forgetting one rather salient point.  He was describing the scene after his child had vanished into thin air.  Obviously things that seemed barely noteworthy beforehand are potentially going to take on massive significance afterwards.

[G-Unit]

To whom?

To anyone.

[Vertigo Swirl]

To anyone.

Why would he or should he?  His daughter had vanished “but the moving door may have been the wind or Madeleine herself” is that what he should have said?  Why?

[pathfinder73]

Well could Matt have seen into the room if the door was ajar as usual?

Matt always said it was half-open so that is for Gerry not me lol.

[G-Unit]

You are forgetting one rather salient point.  He was describing the scene after his child had vanished into thin air.  Obviously things that seemed barely noteworthy beforehand are potentially going to take on massive significance afterwards.

I think the original speculation by Rob which triggered this discussion can be well and truly dismissed. Gerry showed no sign of being concerned on 3rd about that moving door.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10745.msg534363#msg534363

It is strange imo that he wasn't reminded of it when Kate said she found it completely open. 

[Angelo222]

Why would he or should he?  His daughter had vanished “but the moving door may have been the wind or Madeleine herself” is that what he should have said?  Why?

I honestly believe the simple answer is that Maddie opened the bedroom door slightly as she went out.  She may have opened the window too and pulled the shutter up for all we know before deciding to go out the front door instead.

[barrier]

I honestly believe the simple answer is that Maddie opened the bedroom door slightly as she went out.

Not a unreasonable thought.

[Mr Gray]

getting back on topic...i listened to the latest podcast today where jim Clements referred to the disappearance as the abduction...very telling...the EX SY woman claimed  jim gamble has now said he beleives maddie woke and wandered...so shes not to well informed ...other than taht ....nothing

[Robittybob1]

getting back on topic...i listened to the latest podcast today where jim Clements referred to the disappearance as the abduction...very telling...the EX SY woman claimed  jim gamble has now said he beleives maddie woke and wandered...so shes not to well informed ...other than taht ....nothing

On what issue is Laura misinformed?

[Mr Gray]

On what issue is Laura misinformed?

gamble ahs said its  a possibility   not taht he thinks tahts what happenned

[Robittybob1]

gamble ahs said its  a possibility   not taht he thinks tahts what happenned

Cite for what Gamble actually said please.

[Mr Gray]

Cite for what Gamble actually said please.

I think everyone knows...its sunday here by the way...monday where you are..