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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #105 on: June 17, 2019, 10:54:29 AM »
Supporters thought please ?

Imo we should take what the parents will say with a big pinch of salt.  They will feel tremendous guilt about this crazy "childcare arrangement" and have distorted the facts to assuage guilt and possibly shame imo.  They want to remove any idea MM came to some harm in the apartment and/or woke and wandered and sell it hard MM was abducted as this makes them less responsible for MM's disappearance.     
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Erngath

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2019, 10:55:43 AM »
It’s not about perjury, it’s about credibility.

There's definitely no credibility or worthiness can be given to anyone who would commit perjury.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #107 on: June 17, 2019, 10:56:10 AM »

There's that ageism thing again.
My grandchildren are much, much younger than you, I believe, thankfully they are not so blinkered in their appreciation of the wisdom which all their grandparents bring into their lives.

I think older people have much they can teach those of a different generation but many of them do retain the propensity not to see doctor’s, policemen etc as mere mortals with the same failing as the rest of us. I really do believe that this partly explains why the most ardent supporters of the parents are of a certain age.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #108 on: June 17, 2019, 10:56:58 AM »

However many years have passed since that was said.

Two current police investigations have as yet not given any indication that Madeleine's parents are complicit in her disappearance.

The passage of time doesn't change facts, evidence does. 
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #109 on: June 17, 2019, 10:57:37 AM »
Yes most will be down to opinion but not all.  I see these cases like jigsaw puzzles where the corners and borders are the facts capable of withstanding scrutiny.  These pieces need to be found first and then the other pieces will fall into place.

I wonder what it is that Scotland Yard and the Judicial Police are doing with their time and our money IN 2019 as they ponder on the weighty subject of TAPAS-V-MILLENIUM of 2007?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #110 on: June 17, 2019, 11:01:00 AM »
From the cases I've looked at in any detail (UK and NZ) there's always incompetence and negligence much room for improvement!

I think you will go far before you will find anything approaching the level of incompetence Madeleine McCann's case was subjected to.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Erngath

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« Reply #111 on: June 17, 2019, 11:02:08 AM »
I think older people have much they can teach those of a different generation but many of them do retain the propensity not to see doctor’s, policemen etc as mere mortals with the same failing as the rest of us. I really do believe that this partly explains why the most ardent supporters of the parents are of a certain age.

Utter rubbish!
I had two uncles who were doctors, have a friend who is a doctor and I regard and did regard them as mortals with failings.
You do have some strange ideas in my opinion.

What is this certain age?
Are all the "ardent supporters" in the same"certain age" category?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #112 on: June 17, 2019, 11:03:33 AM »
There's definitely no credibility or worthiness can be given to anyone who would commit perjury.

I’m not disagreeing with you so I’m not sure why you keep repeating it and if this was a thread about Amaral lying then I’d see your point, however it isn’t.

I’m sure Gerry was smarting at the criticism of his and his wife’s parenting and perhaps wanted to neutralise some of the bad press. However, to me, there is no excuse for even a tiny lie when your credibility as a witness is important.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Erngath

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #113 on: June 17, 2019, 11:05:02 AM »
The passage of time doesn't change facts, evidence does.

True.
And you have no idea of what evidence has been discovered by the two current police investigations?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #114 on: June 17, 2019, 11:11:11 AM »
It’s not about perjury, it’s about credibility.

Have The McCanns committed Perjury?  I must have missed that.

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #115 on: June 17, 2019, 11:11:25 AM »
Utter rubbish!
I had two uncles who were doctors, have a friend who is a doctor and I regard and did regard them as mortals with failings.
You do have some strange ideas in my opinion.

What is this certain age?
Are all the "ardent supporters" in the same"certain age" category?

It would appear so.....or certainly the vast majority of them.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Erngath

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #116 on: June 17, 2019, 11:12:58 AM »
I’m not disagreeing with you so I’m not sure why you keep repeating it and if this was a thread about Amaral lying then I’d see your point, however it isn’t.

I’m sure Gerry was smarting at the criticism of his and his wife’s parenting and perhaps wanted to neutralise some of the bad press. However, to me, there is no excuse for even a tiny lie when your credibility as a witness is important.

I might agree if he was being interviewed as a witness but he wasn't.
He wasn't in court as a witness where his credibility was important.
It is a very badly produced video with the contents of a TV informal interview , cherry picked as Eleanor has pointed out!
Now some sceptics have taken that video and this supposed lie, where is the proof?
There's none.
Eleanor has pointed out the weaknesses in your theory in a much more succinct post than mine.


Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #117 on: June 17, 2019, 11:13:32 AM »
Yes most will be down to opinion but not all.  I see these cases like jigsaw puzzles where the corners and borders are the facts capable of withstanding scrutiny.  These pieces need to be found first and then the other pieces will fall into place.

Have you found any definite facts so far?
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #118 on: June 17, 2019, 11:14:20 AM »
Imo we should take what the parents will say with a big pinch of salt.  They will feel tremendous guilt about this crazy "childcare arrangement" and have distorted the facts to assuage guilt and possibly shame imo.  They want to remove any idea MM came to some harm in the apartment and/or woke and wandered and sell it hard MM was abducted as this makes them less responsible for MM's disappearance.   

I don't think The McCanns feel like this.  But what blame to The Abductor?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Should We Believe the Parent’s When....?
« Reply #119 on: June 17, 2019, 11:14:56 AM »
Have The McCanns committed Perjury?  I must have missed that.

Of course not but Erngath, for reasons known only to herself, keeps on banging on about it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?