The timeline revisited

[Vertigo Swirl]

Can't be sure really, how fiddly was that child lock on the child gate for example.

Maybe a reconstruction would help.

Besides, supposing the patio door was the point of entry, why waste time closing it & then go leaving the window & shutter wide open?

Unlike you to be so unsure of yourself.  Imagine the perp was already familiar with the child lock on the gate and then have a go. How many seconds to open and close it?

[Wonderfulspam]

Unlike you to be so unsure of yourself.  Imagine the perp was already familiar with the child lock on the gate and then have a go. How many seconds to open and close it?

Why bother if you're going to leave the window open?

[Eleanor]

That blanket also disappeared 

It's in the cat basket at Portimao Police Station.

[G-Unit]

Can't be sure really, how fiddly was that child lock on the child gate for example.

Maybe a reconstruction would help.

Besides, supposing the patio door was the point of entry, why waste time closing it & then go leaving the window & shutter wide open?

The child gate wasn't definitely closed when Kate got there;

The patio gate is closed and the child gate is also probably closed.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_3_MAY_07.htm

[Wonderfulspam]

The child gate wasn't definitely closed when Kate got there;

The patio gate is closed and the child gate is also probably closed.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_3_MAY_07.htm

It definitely was.

The McCanns say so in this interview.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLvnfcl-Zkg&feature=youtu.be&t=1370

KM- ......."Opened the gate at the top of the stairs,(GM Interjecting "with the child lock") closed that behind her".

I maintain, this was how Kate knew Maddie hadn't wandered out the back. The curtains, door, child gate & gate were all closed when Kate went to do her check.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why bother if you're going to leave the window open?

If you can’t or won’t answer my question just say so and I won’t ask again.

[G-Unit]

It's in the cat basket at Portimao Police Station.

I don't think it was taken out of the apartment. It's in the forensic photos taken that night.

[slartibartfast]

It's not a dilemma for me. I wasn''t the one who wrote a timeline leaving so little room for the abduction I alleged took place. I don't know what happened to MBM. All I can do is remind those who think they do of the evidence that exists.

The timeline, if accurate, provides virtually no realistic opportunity for abduction, it does however portray a stringent, if not ott, checking routine.

[Wonderfulspam]

If you can’t or won’t answer my question just say so and I won’t ask again.

We don't know how fiddly the child lock was.

Why don't you tell us how long it would take, then explain why you'd bother closing it behind you anyway.

[Robittybob1]

The child gate wasn't definitely closed when Kate got there;

The patio gate is closed and the child gate is also probably closed.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_3_MAY_07.htm

Looking at the wording in that timeline:
"She starts to close it and it slams. Considering the patio doors had caused a draft, she checks these doors but they are closed. KM returns to the bedroom and opens the door to check the children were not disturbed by the noise."

It is unusual that it is "patio doors" rather than "patio door".   Does this suggest she checked both the front door and the patio door hence "patio doors". 

Kate was right to try and work out why there was a through draft but it appears to me she never quite solved that problem.  Where was the air coming into the building exiting?

[slartibartfast]

The timeline, if accurate, provides virtually no realistic opportunity for abduction, it does however portray a stringent, if not ott, checking routine.

Conversely, if the timeline is inaccurate and ad hoc, then abduction becomes easier.

[Vertigo Swirl]

We don't know how fiddly the child lock was.

Why don't you tell us how long it would take, then explain why you'd bother closing it behind you anyway.

I asked you to imagine you had already familiarised yourself with the lock, now are you going to answer or not?

[Vertigo Swirl]

The timeline, if accurate, provides virtually no realistic opportunity for abduction, it does however portray a stringent, if not ott, checking routine.

That is blatantly untrue and should come with an IMO IMO.

[Wonderfulspam]

I asked you to imagine you had already familiarised yourself with the lock, now are you going to answer or not?

So I did a practice run for the abduction did I?

When should I imagine I did that?

[Robittybob1]

Looking at this section of the timeline

"21:40 Jane goes to her apartment.
21:45 Russelll to Tapas.
22.00 Kate McCann to apartment. "

21:40 Jane goes to her apartment via the patio door since Russell is already in there.
21:45 Russell to Tapas leaving via the patio door since Jane is left in there.
22.00 Kate McCann to apartment entering via the patio door since it was left unlocked.

So why do you say there was no time to enter the McCann's apartment from the front door side of the building.  For well over a half hour no one had been past there.