The timeline revisited

[G-Unit]

I think you are missing the point every time you post this information with the intention of traducing Gerry McCann.

The Policia Judiciaria established that Gerry could not have been the man seen by Mr Smith.

In very much the same way they had established that Mr McCluskey could not have seen Gerry.

Why is it that sceptics ignore Mr McCluskey while idolising Mr Smith.  The PJ PROVED that both men were mistaken in their identification.

With the McClusky sighting, using the registration of the couple's vehicle, the PJ identified them and proved that they weren't the McCanns and the child was their daughter.

With the Smith sighting the PJ didn't prove that Gerry McCann was seated at the restaurant table at the time, because neither the time of the sighting or of the alarm being raised were absolutely pinpointed imo.

[Mr Gray]

With the McClusky sighting, using the registration of the couple's vehicle, the PJ identified them and proved that they weren't the McCanns and the child was their daughter.

With the Smith sighting the PJ didn't prove that Gerry McCann was seated at the restaurant table at the time, because neither the time of the sighting or of the alarm being raised were absolutely pinpointed imo.

Do you think thr Smith ID is considered reliable

From the Guardian...



It has taken several legal committee reports and a mountain of scientific research to bring miscarriages of justice based on visual and voice identification to light, and for appropriate rules to be drawn up on their admissibility. How long will it be before identification based on canine scent is subject to such rigorous analysis?

[Vertigo Swirl]

With the McClusky sighting, using the registration of the couple's vehicle, the PJ identified them and proved that they weren't the McCanns and the child was their daughter.

With the Smith sighting the PJ didn't prove that Gerry McCann was seated at the restaurant table at the time, because neither the time of the sighting or of the alarm being raised were absolutely pinpointed imo.

The PJ report dismisses the Smith sighting as being Gerry does it not?

[Lace]

You are missing the point. It wasn't Amaral who made the statement. The Irish Police initially acted on the statement and quite right to:

From: Long Lindsay
Sent: 20th September, 2007 11:37
CC: Hughes John (DC)
Re: Smith Family

Rec via: TELEPHONE Series: 241 Ident: BC19-8286-1055 20/09/07
Telephone: *********
Locale: Portugal/Out of country
Origin: Mr. Martin Smith 'Ireland

Text: Reported that he passed a male carrying a child in Praia da Luz the night Maddie went missing. Went and made a statement to Portugal police in Portimao on 26th of May and returned to the U.K. Is saying that after seeing McCANNS on the news on 9th of September when they returned to the U.K. He has not slept and is worried sick. He states he was watching the 10 pm news on BBC and saw the McCANNS getting off the plane and coming down the steps. He states it was like watching an action replay of the night he saw the male carrying the child back in Portugal. He states the way Gerry was carrying his twin triggered something in his head. It was exactly the same way and look of the other male seen the night Maddy went missing. He also watched ITV news and SKY news and inferred it looked like the same person both times carrying the children. Is asking a member of the OP Task Force to ring him back. He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

Rec by: TPHONE Serial: 241 Ident:BC19-8286 1055 20/09/07
1101 8286-BC19 Incident linked to 209 26/06/07
1101 8286-BC19 Incident Result ODI: ADMIN DUPLICATE INCIDENT
QNG: QUALIFIER NOT REQUIRED
1101 8286-BC19 Incident Closed

Lindsay Long
Holmes Indexer
Major Crime
Braunstone Police Station

It was Amaral who exaggerated it in his book to be read by the general public.

The Truth of the Lie.  Chapter 20 -


This image, brings back with a jolt, that of the man they encountered in the streets of Vila da Luz, on the evening of Madeleine's disappearance. It's as if the scene is repeating itself ....Mr Smith thinking he's hallucinating, sees the same report on other channels, ITV and Sky News. From that moment, he is sure: the man they came across that night was Gerald McCann. Of that there is very little doubt. Upset by the implications of this discovery, he alerts the police and waits to be called back by those in charge of the investigation.

Exaggerated so that the finger was pointing directly at Gerry McCann.

[Lace]

You are missing the point. It wasn't Amaral who made the statement. The Irish Police initially acted on the statement and quite right to:

From: Long Lindsay
Sent: 20th September, 2007 11:37
CC: Hughes John (DC)
Re: Smith Family

Rec via: TELEPHONE Series: 241 Ident: BC19-8286-1055 20/09/07
Telephone: *********
Locale: Portugal/Out of country
Origin: Mr. Martin Smith 'Ireland

Text: Reported that he passed a male carrying a child in Praia da Luz the night Maddie went missing. Went and made a statement to Portugal police in Portimao on 26th of May and returned to the U.K. Is saying that after seeing McCANNS on the news on 9th of September when they returned to the U.K. He has not slept and is worried sick. He states he was watching the 10 pm news on BBC and saw the McCANNS getting off the plane and coming down the steps. He states it was like watching an action replay of the night he saw the male carrying the child back in Portugal. He states the way Gerry was carrying his twin triggered something in his head. It was exactly the same way and look of the other male seen the night Maddy went missing. He also watched ITV news and SKY news and inferred it looked like the same person both times carrying the children. Is asking a member of the OP Task Force to ring him back. He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

Rec by: TPHONE Serial: 241 Ident:BC19-8286 1055 20/09/07
1101 8286-BC19 Incident linked to 209 26/06/07
1101 8286-BC19 Incident Result ODI: ADMIN DUPLICATE INCIDENT
QNG: QUALIFIER NOT REQUIRED
1101 8286-BC19 Incident Closed

Lindsay Long
Holmes Indexer
Major Crime
Braunstone Police Station

You are missing the point. It wasn't Amaral who made the statement. The Irish Police initially acted on the statement and quite right to:


Oh STOP PRESS a man is seen carrying his child the same way as millions of others do,  putting his head down to see where he is walking incase he falls down the b....y steps.

[Brietta]

With the McClusky sighting, using the registration of the couple's vehicle, the PJ identified them and proved that they weren't the McCanns and the child was their daughter.

With the Smith sighting the PJ didn't prove that Gerry McCann was seated at the restaurant table at the time, because neither the time of the sighting or of the alarm being raised were absolutely pinpointed imo.

What is it you fail to comprehend about how a police investigation works.

( i)  Mr McCluskey's identification was investigated and found groundless
(ii)  Mr Smith's identification was investigated and found to be groundless.

Both witnesses allegedly got their information from watching a news report of the family's return  to Britain.

Not even the most dyed in the wool sceptic can legitimately accept one and ignore the other because it suits their narrative;  In my opinion the constant revisiting and promotion of Mr Smith's sighting with more than a nudge and a wink which the police had dismissed - exactly as they had Mr McCluskey's - most definitely amounts to a deliberate slur.
Now explain why you think it isn't.

[G-Unit]

What is it you fail to comprehend about how a police investigation works.

( i)  Mr McCluskey's identification was investigated and found groundless
(ii)  Mr Smith's identification was investigated and found to be groundless.

Both witnesses allegedly got their information from watching a news report of the family's return  to Britain.

Not even the most dyed in the wool sceptic can legitimately accept one and ignore the other because it suits their narrative;  In my opinion the constant revisiting and promotion of Mr Smith's sighting with more than a nudge and a wink which the police had dismissed - exactly as they had Mr McCluskey's - most definitely amounts to a deliberate slur.
Now explain why you think it isn't.

Obviously you think the PJ were correct to accept that Gerry McCann was seated in the Tapas restaurant at the time of the Smith sighting.

I wonder why the PJ relied on evidence which they had previously questioned and wanted to confirm by holding a reconstitution.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Obviously you think the PJ were correct to accept that Gerry McCann was seated in the Tapas restaurant at the time of the Smith sighting.

I wonder why the PJ relied on evidence which they had previously questioned and wanted to confirm by holding a reconstitution.

Perhaps because they realised that the idea that all 7 Tapas guests were covering up for Gerry was ridiculous in the extreme.

[Brietta]

Obviously you think the PJ were correct to accept that Gerry McCann was seated in the Tapas restaurant at the time of the Smith sighting.

I wonder why the PJ relied on evidence which they had previously questioned and wanted to confirm by holding a reconstitution.

Did the Policia Judiciaria really "previously question" the information given to the Amaral team 😁

If so ... why didn't that absence feature in the stated reasons for making the McCanns arguidos?

What I'm wondering about is why you continue to traduce Gerry McCann when he has been unequivocally cleared by the Policia Judiciaria in the first instance and by every other investigating team since.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

With the McClusky sighting, using the registration of the couple's vehicle, the PJ identified them and proved that they weren't the McCanns and the child was their daughter.

With the Smith sighting the PJ didn't prove that Gerry McCann was seated at the restaurant table at the time, because neither the time of the sighting or of the alarm being raised were absolutely pinpointed imo.

Absolutely correct. They then wanted to look closely at a reconstruction of the timeline(s).

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Do you think thr Smith ID is considered reliable

From the Guardian...



It has taken several legal committee reports and a mountain of scientific research to bring miscarriages of justice based on visual and voice identification to light, and for appropriate rules to be drawn up on their admissibility. How long will it be before identification based on canine scent is subject to such rigorous analysis?

It added to a body of evidence. The PJ were making plans to look again at timelines and were interested in certain apartments.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Absolutely correct. They then wanted to look closely at a reconstruction of the timeline(s).

Tell me how a reconstruction would have helped, unless you think Gerry, to be helpful to the PJ, decides re-enact leaving the table for the half an hour that no one else at the tapas table happened to mention in their statements?

[Anthro]

Obviously you think the PJ were correct to accept that Gerry McCann was seated in the Tapas restaurant at the time of the Smith sighting.

I wonder why the PJ relied on evidence which they had previously questioned and wanted to confirm by holding a reconstitution.

A reconstruction that they could further exploit and distort?

[G-Unit]

A reconstruction that they could further exploit and distort?

The reconstitution would have been carried out as per the statements of the participants covering the time between 5.30pm and 11pm.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The reconstitution would have been carried out as per the statements of the participants covering the time between 5.30pm and 11pm.

And which version would have revealed Gerry wasn’t at the table when The Smiths saw him, allegedly?