The timeline revisited

[Brietta]

With the McClusky sighting, using the registration of the couple's vehicle, the PJ identified them and proved that they weren't the McCanns and the child was their daughter.

With the Smith sighting the PJ didn't prove that Gerry McCann was seated at the restaurant table at the time, because neither the time of the sighting or of the alarm being raised were absolutely pinpointed imo.

With respect, that is an idiotic response.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

With respect, that is an idiotic response.

Perhaps you would care to explain why in your opinion?

Far from being "idiotic" G-Unit hits the nail on the head imo.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

You are missing the point. It wasn't Amaral who made the statement. The Irish Police initially acted on the statement and quite right to:


Oh STOP PRESS a man is seen carrying his child the same way as millions of others do,  putting his head down to see where he is walking incase he falls down the b....y steps.

Why wasn't such thinking applied to the Tanner sighting by Mitchell at the London press conference?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Perhaps because they realised that the idea that all 7 Tapas guests were covering up for Gerry was ridiculous in the extreme.

How many of them actually place Gerry in the  Tapas Bar from 9:30 to 10:10pm? Is it really all seven? Furthermore. imo, they may have been worried (with possibly the exception of the Payne's) about the serious consequences of possible neglect charges arising from leaving very young children alone in their apartments.

Admins note: Posted as OPINION not fact!

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Does anyone know the timeline for who and when told ROB about the Tanner sighting and what time the sticker book timelines were made?

[Vertigo Swirl]

How many of them actually place Gerry in the  Tapas Bar from 9:30 to 10:10pm? Is it really all seven? Furthermore. imo, they may have been worried (with possibly the exception of the Payne's) about the serious consequences of possible neglect charges arising from leaving very young children alone in their apartments.

Admins note: Posted as OPINION not fact!

If Gerry’s presence at the table between 9.30pm and 10pm was so utterly critical to the investigation why wasn’t each Tapas member asked this question specifically by the police?  Possible neglect charges would have depended on them being at the tapas table themselves which none of them denied so it can’t have been that which potentially drove them all collectively to cover for Gerry, so have another think.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

If Gerry’s presence at the table between 9.30pm and 10pm was so utterly critical to the investigation why wasn’t each Tapas member asked this question specifically by the police? 

Well indeed. We know that Amaral was planning to scrutinise the timeline after Martin Smith’s shocking revelation moment.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Possible neglect charges would have depended on them being at the tapas table themselves which none of them denied so it can’t have been that which potentially drove them all collectively to cover for Gerry, so have another think.

Speculation of course…. But maybe the collective number of checks were deemed to make their unsafe (imo) childcare arrangements seem a little less negligent if the number increased. For some reason the checking arrangement was allegedly different on the night in question. Maybe there was some other reason. To suppose that friends don’t cover for criminal activity is not a given imo. I do agree that if they do all know something isn’t quite right then the chances of one couple breaking any “pact” is quite considerable. As Gamble said, “relationships change”.

[G-Unit]

With respect, that is an idiotic response.

With equal respect, so is that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Speculation of course…. But maybe the collective number of checks were deemed to make their unsafe (imo) childcare arrangements seem a little less negligent if the number increased. For some reason the checking arrangement was allegedly different on the night in question. Maybe there was some other reason. To suppose that friends don’t cover for criminal activity is not a given imo. I do agree that if they do all know something isn’t quite right then the chances of one couple breaking any “pact” is quite considerable. As Gamble said, “relationships change”.

So what you seem to be saying is - the Tapas Group failed to mention an additional check because they feared negligence charges for not doing enough checks?  How does that make any sense at all?

[Eleanor]

Well indeed. We know that Amaral was planning to scrutinise the timeline after Martin Smith’s shocking revelation moment.

So what happened to that great idea?

[G-Unit]

Well indeed. We know that Amaral was planning to scrutinise the timeline after Martin Smith’s shocking revelation moment.

Yes, Mr Smith was contacted on 27th September;

On this date I state for the files that at about 12.12 I had telephone contact with the witness Martin Smith, by means of phone number ********* who referred to the communication he made on 20-09-2007 to the British authorities, that confirms his sighting and showing his full availability to travel to Portugal with the aim of making statements and collaborating with this police in all the diligences that could be considered necessary concerning these events.

Portimao, 27th September 2007

Signed

Inspector Paiva

On October 2nd Amaral was taken off the case.

Mr Smith wasn't brought back to Portugal.

[Eleanor]

Yes, Mr Smith was contacted on 27th September;

On this date I state for the files that at about 12.12 I had telephone contact with the witness Martin Smith, by means of phone number ********* who referred to the communication he made on 20-09-2007 to the British authorities, that confirms his sighting and showing his full availability to travel to Portugal with the aim of making statements and collaborating with this police in all the diligences that could be considered necessary concerning these events.

Portimao, 27th September 2007

Signed

Inspector Paiva

On October 2nd Amaral was taken off the case.

Mr Smith wasn't brought back to Portugal.

So what happened to that great idea?

[Vertigo Swirl]

So what happened to that great idea?

I bet the British got to Rebelo and prevented it.  Or something.

[Eleanor]

I bet the British got to Rebelo and prevented it.  Or something.

Wot?  While Rebelo was bailing out on The Rogatories because The PJ were leaking again?

Interestingly enough before David Payne had anything at all to say.