The timeline revisited

[jassi]

You will not get an explanation from The McCanns and they are not obliged to give one.

Indeed so, particularly when they have plenty to explain things for them.

[Eleanor]

Indeed so, particularly when they have plenty to explain things for them.

Try using a bit of logic.

I'm not explaining anything and nor do I have to.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It’s bordering on shameful to compare those who believe the case for rare stranger abduction hasn’t been proved with Holocaust deniers.

Colin Sutton raises questions about the case and is not convinced either way on the basis of the available evidence.

If the McCann’s offer an explanation for deleted texts I will consider it with an open mind.

Will you now?  Just like you've considered all their explanations for every other aspect of this case and dismissed? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

This is a laugh a minute.  Fourteen Years and absolutely nothing to suggest that The McCanns were in any way culpable.  Not even so much as an arrest for anything at all.

Whether or not The McCanns deleted their text messages is of no interest to me.

Or do certain persons think that The McCanns were plotting Madeleine's disappearance by text?

This is exactly the point that Billy is reluctant to confront or explain, but like all good conspiracy theorists the logic of it is not important, only the agenda of pushing the vague suspicion that referring to "deleted texts and phonecalls" engenders. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Indeed so, particularly when they have plenty to explain things for them.

In case you hadn't noticed sceptics demand answers repeatedly but the only people hearing them are McCann supporters on this forum.  We try and help by giving plausible and logical answers but the sceptics are only pretending to want answers, in reality they just want to give voice their suspicions by asking the same questions over and over again, interminably.

[Eleanor]

This is exactly the point that Billy is reluctant to confront or explain, but like all good conspiracy theorists the logic of it is not important, only the agenda of pushing the vague suspicion that referring to "deleted texts and phonecalls" engenders.

So just another McCann bashing exercise.  As if I didn't know.  Did The PJ find anything?

Fourteen Years ago.  For heave's sake.

[Brietta]

So just another McCann bashing exercise.  As if I didn't know.  Did The PJ find anything?

Fourteen Years ago.  For heave's sake.

A McCann bashing exercise with the added offshoot of bringing the forum into disrepute in my opinion.  The amount of ancient unfounded speculation imported from other places is myriad and very tough to deal with given the forum's reputation for allowing free expression of opinion.
The thing is this is not really opinion - it is indoctrination by any other name and I for one am becoming bored with this forum unfriendly tactic.
There are plenty of cess pits already on the internet - to date this forum does not number amongst them - but that seems displeasing to some.

There actually is a valid timeline under discussion and the Germans have already informed us that we will find out what it is later rather than sooner.  I think that is what the sceptic panic of the moment is all about.

[Eleanor]

A McCann bashing exercise with the added offshoot of bringing the forum into disrepute in my opinion.  The amount of ancient unfounded speculation imported from other places is myriad and very tough to deal with given the forum's reputation for allowing free expression of opinion.
The thing is this is not really opinion - it is indoctrination by any other name and I for one am becoming bored with this forum unfriendly tactic.
There are plenty of cess pits already on the internet - to date this forum does not number amongst them - but that seems displeasing to some.

There actually is a valid timeline under discussion and the Germans have already informed us that we will find out what it is later rather than sooner.  I think that is what the sceptic panic of the moment is all about.

As usual, you put it more succinctly than I.

But we are aware of what is afoot.  An attempt to infiltrate this Forum with lies and innuendo.  It isn't going to happen.

This Forum is the best you all are going to get and it is going to stay that way.  So cut the word games.  Some of us are much better at this some of you seem to think.

[Brietta]

As usual, you put it more succinctly than I.

But we are aware of what is afoot.  An attempt to infiltrate this Forum with lies and innuendo.  It isn't going to happen.

This Forum is the best you all are going to get and it is going to stay that way.  So cut the word games.  Some of us are much better at this some of you seem to think.

It is being done so transparently that I find it heart breaking.  This is the only forum on the internet which really does allow freedom of expression within decent limits.  It is very valuable and that is what makes it a target.

[Eleanor]

It is being done so transparently that I find it heart breaking.  This is the only forum on the internet which really does allow freedom of expression within decent limits.  It is very valuable and that is what makes it a target.

Perhaps only transparent to those who have a good command of The English Language, which includes all McCann Supporters that I know.  Maybe this is why they are McCann Supporters.

For us it isn't difficult to read and understand what has been said and what it amounts to, if anything at all.

[G-Unit]

A McCann bashing exercise with the added offshoot of bringing the forum into disrepute in my opinion.  The amount of ancient unfounded speculation imported from other places is myriad and very tough to deal with given the forum's reputation for allowing free expression of opinion.
The thing is this is not really opinion - it is indoctrination by any other name and I for one am becoming bored with this forum unfriendly tactic.
There are plenty of cess pits already on the internet - to date this forum does not number amongst them - but that seems displeasing to some.

There actually is a valid timeline under discussion and the Germans have already informed us that we will find out what it is later rather than sooner.  I think that is what the sceptic panic of the moment is all about.

You seem to be saying that freedom of expression is a good thing, but when the views expressed don't meet with your personal approval you suggest they consist of speculation and indoctrination. Imo freedom of expression is either tolerated or it isn't. Judging and labelling people's views and posts is straying towards censorship imo.

[Eleanor]

You seem to be saying that freedom of expression is a good thing, but when the views expressed don't meet with your personal approval you suggest they consist of speculation and indoctrination. Imo freedom of expression is either tolerated or it isn't. Judging and labelling people's views and posts is straying towards censorship imo.

Or straying towards Lies and Libel, which is often the case.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You seem to be saying that freedom of expression is a good thing, but when the views expressed don't meet with your personal approval you suggest they consist of speculation and indoctrination. Imo freedom of expression is either tolerated or it isn't. Judging and labelling people's views and posts is straying towards censorship imo.

Have you got the data which proves the McCanns deleted their phone calls yet?  Also the dated and times of these deleted phone calls?   If so please supply it (second or third time of asking)  thanks.

[Brietta]

You seem to be saying that freedom of expression is a good thing, but when the views expressed don't meet with your personal approval you suggest they consist of speculation and indoctrination. Imo freedom of expression is either tolerated or it isn't. Judging and labelling people's views and posts is straying towards censorship imo.

I am a moderator on this forum as are you. 
Don't you think you have expressed a rather strange opinion for a moderator to hold 😁

[G-Unit]

I am a moderator on this forum as are you. 
Don't you think you have expressed a rather strange opinion for a moderator to hold 😁

Isn't that more or less what I expressed about your opinion?