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Online Eleanor

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #120 on: July 07, 2019, 04:28:46 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 04:03:12 PM
It was a very relevant point as it seems he should not even been given the contract as he was not accredited ...

Did Grime not say that it didn't matter because it wasn't England?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #121 on: July 07, 2019, 04:35:23 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on July 07, 2019, 04:28:46 PM
Did Grime not say that it didn't matter because it wasn't England?

I believe he did
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #122 on: July 07, 2019, 04:36:18 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 04:03:12 PM
It was a very relevant point as it seems he should not even been given the contract as he was not accredited ...

I got the impression they were assessing the costs of the investigation. It seems Harper didn't follow best practice in their opinion when he hired Grime. That isn't Grime's fault, it's Harper's fault.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #123 on: July 07, 2019, 04:38:38 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 07, 2019, 04:36:18 PM
I got the impression they were assessing the costs of the investigation. It seems Harper didn't follow best practice in their opinion when he hired Grime. That isn't Grime's fault, it's Harper's fault.

It's Grimes fault if he supplied documents that he was, acpo registered in order to secure the job
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #124 on: July 07, 2019, 04:41:49 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 04:38:38 PM
It's Grimes fault if he supplied documents that he was, acpo registered in order to secure the job

Prove documents were incorrect then. When did he lose his ACPO accreditation?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #125 on: July 07, 2019, 04:43:42 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 07, 2019, 04:41:49 PM
Prove documents were incorrect then. When did he lose his ACPO accreditation?

I don't have to prove anything... The report is quite clear
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #126 on: July 07, 2019, 05:19:44 PM »
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #127 on: July 07, 2019, 05:29:59 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 04:35:23 PM
I believe he did

He reportedly said that about Jersey.



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Online Eleanor

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #128 on: July 07, 2019, 05:32:36 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 05:29:59 PM
He reportedly said that about Jersey.

Exactly.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #129 on: July 07, 2019, 07:39:08 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 07, 2019, 02:58:16 PM
As that report is by a firm of accountants I would like further evidence. Do police officers lose their accreditation when they retire or did these accountants make an assumption?
or did these accountants add it up wrong?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #130 on: July 07, 2019, 07:41:19 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 03:05:45 PM
the report says despite claims submitted in stateemnts and documennts he was not ACPO accredited...thats sounds fairly convincing to me.

In his white paper grime talks alot about canine hndlers offering value for money. He stayed in a 4 star beachfront hotel....and insisted to being upgraded to a room with a beach view. There were less  expensive hotels nearer the site....thats sounds a little inconsistent
Being an animal lover I'm sure it was Eddie that insisted on that.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #131 on: July 07, 2019, 08:57:09 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on July 07, 2019, 05:32:36 PM
Exactly.

But that in itself doesn’t show he wasn’t ACPO accredited whilst  in PDL.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #132 on: July 07, 2019, 09:15:09 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 08:57:09 PM
But that in itself doesn’t show he wasn’t ACPO accredited whilst  in PDL.

Good point. We started in PdL and ended up in Jersey for some reason. Harrison brought him in there and he was ACPO so I expect all was in order.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #133 on: July 07, 2019, 09:17:11 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 07, 2019, 04:41:49 PM
Prove documents were incorrect then. When did he lose his ACPO accreditation?

The enquiry was a joint enquiry involving Michael Kellet an experienced SIO.. I'm sure he would be familiar with ACPO  guidelines
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #134 on: July 07, 2019, 09:20:12 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 08:57:09 PM
But that in itself doesn’t show he wasn’t ACPO accredited whilst  in PDL.
The problem is Grime claiming to be accredited when he wasn't...if he was "mistaken " on that point it does suggest he might be mistaken on others
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