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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #150 on: July 07, 2019, 10:42:33 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on July 07, 2019, 10:19:24 PM
Point them out to me in the clothes testing footage? Cheers.
Were none of Gerry’s clothes included?  If not why not?  How were the clothing items selected?  Based on what logic?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #151 on: July 07, 2019, 10:43:41 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 07, 2019, 10:39:35 PM
Another retired policeman offering his 'expert' opinion. They get everywhere, don't they?
That is actually s description of grime...
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #152 on: July 07, 2019, 10:44:43 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 10:08:53 PM
I'm not spreading myths.. I'm pointing out the truth... Do all cadaver dogs react to antique furniture too... Anything else to add to the list... According to grime teeth have been crossed off

The antique furniture alert was correct - the dog alerted to cadaver odour on the antique furniture. Your attempts to discredit the dogs do not explain why Eddie and Keela only alerted to items related to the McCann's.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #153 on: July 07, 2019, 10:48:24 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 10:44:43 PM
The antique furniture alert was correct - the dog alerted to cadaver odour on the antique furniture. Your attempts to discredit the dogs do not explain why Eddie and Keela only alerted to items related to the McCann's.
I've already given an explanation for that... Based on the questions raised by the PJ regarding the alerts... I certainly seem to have hit a nerve... And I'm quoting facts.. Not my opinion
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #154 on: July 07, 2019, 10:50:06 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 10:44:43 PM
The antique furniture alert was correct - the dog alerted to cadaver odour on the antique furniture. Your attempts to discredit the dogs do not explain why Eddie and Keela only alerted to items related to the McCann's.

If the alert to the furniture was correct then the dig will alert to just about anything depending in it's history...
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #155 on: July 07, 2019, 10:50:15 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 10:48:24 PM
I've already given an explanation for that... Based on the questions raised by the PJ regarding the alerts... I certainly seem to have hit a nerve... And I'm quoting facts.. Not my opinion

I don't recall seeing an explanation from you on that one, but I am new here.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #156 on: July 07, 2019, 10:51:53 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 10:50:15 PM
I don't recall seeing an explanation from you on that one, but I am new here.

I'll repeat it tomorrow... With a cite from the PJ who observed the alerts
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #157 on: July 07, 2019, 10:54:07 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 10:50:06 PM
If the alert to the furniture was correct then the dig will alert to just about anything depending in it's history...

No the dog alerts to cadaver odour, pig corpse and blood - not to just about everything. If the dogs alert to just about everything they would have alerted elsewhere. They only alerted at items relating to the McCann's. The searches were faster in the other areas because Eddie's behaviour didn't change. I have lurchers I can tell when they smell small furry creatures.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #158 on: July 07, 2019, 10:56:55 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 10:54:07 PM
No the dog alerts to cadaver odour, pig corpse and blood - not to just about everything. If the dogs alert to just about everything they would have alerted elsewhere. They only alerted at items relating to the McCann's. The searches were faster in the other areas because Eddie's behaviour didn't change. I have lurchers I can tell when they smell small furry creatures.
So we have to accept Grimes word... Perhaps he was mistaken as he was when he claimed to be ACPO accredited
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #159 on: July 07, 2019, 10:58:27 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 10:54:07 PM
No the dog alerts to cadaver odour, pig corpse and blood - not to just about everything. If the dogs alert to just about everything they would have alerted elsewhere. They only alerted at items relating to the McCann's. The searches were faster in the other areas because Eddie's behaviour didn't change. I have lurchers I can tell when they smell small furry creatures.
you forgot coconut.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #160 on: July 07, 2019, 10:58:50 PM »
Quote from: Davel on July 07, 2019, 10:56:55 PM
So we have to accept Grimes word... Perhaps he was mistaken as he was when he claimed to be ACPO accredited

Perhaps you are that he wasn't? You don't have a date after all.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 08:05:07 AM by slartibartfast »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #161 on: July 07, 2019, 10:59:25 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 10:54:07 PM
No the dog alerts to cadaver odour, pig corpse and blood - not to just about everything. If the dogs alert to just about everything they would have alerted elsewhere. They only alerted at items relating to the McCann's. The searches were faster in the other areas because Eddie's behaviour didn't change. I have lurchers I can tell when they smell small furry creatures.

Have there ever been any tests to see if Grime unintentionally cues his dogs... Perhaps grime was excited as he knew this was the McCann apartment
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #162 on: July 07, 2019, 11:00:48 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 07, 2019, 10:58:27 PM
you forgot coconut.

I think you need to look a little closer at that one, horrible haunting place that it is.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #163 on: July 07, 2019, 11:01:11 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 10:58:50 PM
Perhaps you are that he wasn't? You don't have a date after all.

It's not me saying he wasn't... It's the ex senior police officer hired by Jersey Police to investigate the investigation
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Martin Grime's Credentials At The Time OF Entering 5A - Fit For Purpose?
« Reply #164 on: July 07, 2019, 11:02:46 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 07, 2019, 11:00:48 PM
I think you need to look a little closer at that one, horrible haunting place that it is.
I couldn’t look at it any closer than the forensic team did who concluded it was a bit of cocnut shell.
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