Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I thought you were going to tell me what Kate did immediately after.

No - she returned to the apartment to criticise the efforts of those up all night looking for her daughter, IMO. We’re not sure what she did say or do “immediately after” (what?) her 10pm “check” there are different and changing stories and of that time.

[jassi]

No - she returned to the apartment to criticise the efforts of those up all night looking for her daughter, IMO. We’re not sure what she did say or do “immediately after” (what?) her 10pm “check” there are different and changing stories and of that time.

From what I've read, she  decided to pay some belated parental attention to remaining children.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

From what I've read, she  decided to pay some belated parental attention to remaining children.

IMO - I believe if I was in that situation I would have shouted from the veranda... or phoned someone in the group so that I didn't have to leave very young children alone (again). Then when my partner and friends were back at the apartment. I would ask someone to stay with the sleeping children whilst I went on a frantic search.... Nothing and nobody would stop me searching for the missing child.

[jassi]

IMO - I believe if I was in that situation I would have shouted from the veranda... or phoned someone in the group so that I didn't have to leave very young children alone (again). Then when my partner and friends were back at the apartment. I would ask someone to stay with the sleeping children whilst I went on a frantic search.... Nothing and nobody would stop me searching for the missing child.

Aye, well your'e probably normal.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Turns out anyway that Terfenadine wasn't a generic term for antihistamines... I've just today seen a picture of the drug box in apartment 5A. We will never know who it was prescribed to, and we do know it wasn't used to sedate anyone!!

I also today saw Dave Edgar and another "former policeman" talk about the use of "chloroform". That really is "ludicrous" (for a number of reasons) and surely they know this as former detectives?

[Robittybob1]

Turns out anyway that Terfenadine wasn't a generic term for antihistamines... I've just today seen a picture of the drug box in apartment 5A. We will never know who it was prescribed to, and we do know it wasn't used to sedate anyone!!

I also today saw Dave Edgar and another "former policeman" talk about the use of "chloroform". That really is "ludicrous" (for a number of reasons) and surely they know this as former detectives?

I've just today seen a picture of the drug box in apartment 5A.  Where did you see this? 

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I've just today seen a picture of the drug box in apartment 5A.  Where did you see this?

It was on a You Tube video... a clip from a TV news report or photo from inside the apartment... I don't know if I could find it again. Might have come from something, that possible stooge IMO, Richard Hall put together.

[Robittybob1]

It was on a You Tube video... a clip from a TV news report or photo from inside the apartment... I don't know if I could find it again. Might have come from something, that possible stooge IMO, Richard Hall put together.

I don't recall any news reporters using video inside apartment 5A. 

[misty]

Turns out anyway that Terfenadine wasn't a generic term for antihistamines... I've just today seen a picture of the drug box in apartment 5A. We will never know who it was prescribed to, and we do know it wasn't used to sedate anyone!!

I also today saw Dave Edgar and another "former policeman" talk about the use of "chloroform". That really is "ludicrous" (for a number of reasons) and surely they know this as former detectives?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/uganda/3541361/Ugandan-men-warned-of-booby-trap-after-chloroform-attacks.html

[Robittybob1]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/uganda/3541361/Ugandan-men-warned-of-booby-trap-after-chloroform-attacks.html

You would think the chloroform would knock the woman out as well.  Maybe it wasn't chloroform?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/uganda/3541361/Ugandan-men-warned-of-booby-trap-after-chloroform-attacks.html

It's absolute drivel... The woman who had it on her breast would be equally unconscious... Furthermore if chloroform was used on the twins in 5A by a 9:15pm "abductor" they would have been awake by 9:35... maybe drowsy but incredibly distressed and no doubt screaming again for their absent parents!!

https://www.quora.com/How-long-does-chloroform-knock-you-out-for

Chloroform “knocks you out” for as long as it is applied, this could be for 20 minutes to two hours with a 20–30 minute recovery time; during which there will be intense shivering, severe nausea and more than likely vomiting, then a severe headache lasting hours.

Unless you're asking how long does it take to knock someone out with chloroform.

Firstly the old Hollywood “rag over the mouth” staple is utter nonsense, it takes about 5 minutes to induce anaesthesia with chloroform and that is under conditions with a willing patient (or a patient in restraints), even with a fully soaked rag you're going to have to hold your victim still (implying higher physical strength which begs the question; why not just choke the victim unconscious which takes fifteen seconds maximum, then you can just inject them with 150+ milligrams of ketamine, which would cause unconsciousness in one or two minutes.

[misty]

You would think the chloroform would knock the woman out as well.  Maybe it wasn't chloroform?

I took the report at face value, Rob.

These men managed to kill a woman using chloroform without apparently being knocked out at the same time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3281332/Callous-calculating-cash-carry-worker-guilty-murdering-one-three-lovers-brother-s-help-stop-exposing-two-year-affair.html

[Robittybob1]

I took the report at face value, Rob.

These men managed to kill a woman using chloroform without apparently being knocked out at the same time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3281332/Callous-calculating-cash-carry-worker-guilty-murdering-one-three-lovers-brother-s-help-stop-exposing-two-year-affair.html

Well if someone snuck up behind you while you were otherwise engaged maybe you could get knocked out but it won't be from Chloroform applied before you begun.  That's just my opinion - as I've never tried it.

[Holly Goodhead]

Sorry if I'm being a bit dim but what has chloroform got to do with anything case related?

[jassi]

Sorry if I'm being a bit dim but what has chloroform got to do with anything case related?

I think that someone once came up with the wild idea that the abductor synthesised their own chloroform with which to drug the children.

Completely wacky idea in my opinion,