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Offline Holly Goodhead

Glove Prints
« on: July 22, 2019, 10:10:44 AM »
If an abductor entered 5A it is almost certain he/she wore gloves.  Do we know if police soc investigators or forensics looked for glove prints?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2019, 10:33:40 AM »
If an abductor entered 5A it is almost certain he/she wore gloves.  Do we know if police soc investigators or forensics looked for glove prints?
The word "glove" was used once, in a different context.

Is there another word rather than glove prints.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2019, 10:45:34 AM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2019, 11:09:44 AM »
The word "glove" was used once, in a different context.

Is there another word rather than glove prints.

I don't believe so.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2019, 11:11:49 AM »
From memory GA says there were no glove prints found in one of his interviews. 
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Online Eleanor

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2019, 11:18:48 AM »
The word "glove" was used once, in a different context.

Is there another word rather than glove prints.

Glove Smear.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2019, 11:30:06 AM »
He/she  would have to have been wearing not only gloves, but head to toe cling film to leave the place so clean of any marks/DNA.

Diane tried to lift the shutters- she said it was impossible. perhaps that is why the parents claimed a jemmie was used to prize them open, sadly no evidence of that either.

No scuff marks on the white walls inside or outside the apartment. Which given the small enterence and a man/woman carrying a sleeping child would be awkward.

 There was no finger prints or glove marks/smudges found on the front door/ this would be the other exit if JT saw an abductor- was the front door locked? did he manage to lock it  behind him after he stole MBM?

Oh and there is no Chimney.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2019, 11:30:41 AM »
Glove Smear.
The word glove is only used once.  Were there smears or smudges?

"7. One pair of rubber gloves."  ???? that is an odd item to take on holiday.

words smear or smudge do not appear.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2019, 11:36:43 AM »
He/she  would have to have been wearing not only gloves, but head to toe cling film to leave the place so clean of any marks/DNA.

Diane tried to lift the shutters- she said it was impossible. perhaps that is why the parents claimed a jemmie was used to prize them open, sadly no evidence of that either.

No scuff marks on the white walls inside or outside the apartment. Which given the small enterence and a man/woman carrying a sleeping child would be awkward.

 There was no finger prints or glove marks/smudges found on the front door/ this would be the other exit if JT saw an abductor- was the front door locked? did he manage to lock it  behind him after he stole MBM?

Oh and there is no Chimney.

What sort of DNA evidence do you think an abductor might have left behind that would be useful in an investigation of this type?

Glove prints would not necessarily be revealed unless investigators/forensics looked for them?

I don't believe MM was wearing any footwear so what sort of scuff marks would be expected if an abductor carried her out.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2019, 11:44:44 AM »
What sort of DNA evidence do you think an abductor might have left behind that would be useful in an investigation of this type?

Glove prints would not necessarily be revealed unless investigators/forensics looked for them?

I don't believe MM was wearing any footwear so what sort of scuff marks would be expected if an abductor carried her out.


I would expect  to find his/her scuff marks below the window. Foot print on the bed  at the window where he/she had to negotiate to get out carrying a heavy child, hair from MBM at or near the window he/she may must have brushed against something.

The tight area and small opening at the window means he /she would need to hold MBM in one arm or have great balance to get both out without touching /brushing against anything.

Only fingerprints found on the window was Kates.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2019, 12:55:54 PM »

I would expect  to find his/her scuff marks below the window. Foot print on the bed  at the window where he/she had to negotiate to get out carrying a heavy child, hair from MBM at or near the window he/she may must have brushed against something.

The tight area and small opening at the window means he /she would need to hold MBM in one arm or have great balance to get both out without touching /brushing against anything.

Only fingerprints found on the window was Kates.

Well I believe the window was 'staged'.  Either by the abductor to throw investigators or the McCanns as they felt so dumb in leaving the patio doors unlocked. 

My theory involves the perp entering via the patio doors, scooping up MM and exiting via the front door placing MM in a car in the immediate vicinity. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline barrier

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2019, 12:57:29 PM »
Well I believe the window was 'staged'.  Either by the abductor to throw investigators or the McCanns as they felt so dumb in leaving the patio doors unlocked. 

My theory involves the perp entering via the patio doors, scooping up MM and exiting via the front door placing MM in a car in the immediate vicinity.


Circa what time?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2019, 01:01:49 PM »
Well I believe the window was 'staged'.  Either by the abductor to throw investigators or the McCanns as they felt so dumb in leaving the patio doors unlocked. 

My theory involves the perp entering via the patio doors, scooping up MM and exiting via the front door placing MM in a car in the immediate vicinity.

I agree with the 'staged' window by the parents part of your theory

The front door was locked? did your prep open from the inside and lock it behind him/her while carrying a child?

where in the time line would this have happened?

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2019, 01:03:37 PM »

Circa what time?

I would say it would have to been when perp(s) know T9 were all seated at tapas.  Based on G-Unit's timeline I would say circa 21.20. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10830.msg539314#msg539314
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Online Eleanor

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2019, 01:05:27 PM »
I would say it would have to been when perp(s) know T9 were all seated at tapas.  Based on G-Unit's timeline I would say circa 21.20. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10830.msg539314#msg539314

I agree with that.

Offline jassi

Re: Glove Prints
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2019, 01:05:41 PM »
I would say it would have to been when perp(s) know T9 were all seated at tapas.  Based on G-Unit's timeline I would say circa 21.20. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10830.msg539314#msg539314

Wasn't Jane still on the move at that time?
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