Author Topic: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?  (Read 68522 times)

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Offline faithlilly

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2019, 12:59:34 PM »
I dont think so...based on all the evidence we know i cannot see the parents being involved. of course I could be wrong and theyve just been incredibly clever. But based on the known evidence they are not.....and SY and the  PJ seem to agree. Thats two police forces.I cannot see a realistic raeson why both police forces...if they have evidence...are not pursuing the mccanns.

What do we know about the current investigation?

When Redwood, Rowley et al were asked if the parents or their friends were suspects they said no....what did you expect them to say ? I’m sure if the same question had been asked about Huntley or Halliwell before they were arrested and subsequently charged the answer would have been that they were not suspects. If there had not been leaks about the first Portuguese investigation we would not have known that the parents were suspects until they were made arguidos.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2019, 01:05:57 PM »
If the parents were suspects I would expect them to be investigated..

Indeed and if or when they are charged that’s when we’ll know that they have been.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2019, 05:11:06 PM »
All that is done already Rob, but seems people have me on 'ignore'.     I am not liked, but then my posts are long very often; they need to be.

That is up to them, but if they dont' read and consider, then they cant make your observation.

The tracker dogs were not tracking Madeleine IMO but the man who lifted Madeleine.  I think that he left his nervous sweaty smell on the towel and blanket and it overpowered Madeleines delicate scent and  The dogs sniffing the blanket etc latched onto his smell in preference to Madeleines.  The front door would be closed by the lifter(?spotty man? ) or by Tannerman in that case. 

Why do you think that she was abducted from the car park opposite the Tapas reception ?

He passed her over to Tannerman IMO.  I think she left via the front of the apartment, carried by Tannerman and was due to be picked up near 5A car park entrance.  But the pick up car didn't arrive due to Gerry and Jez being in the way.  Fear of being seen by Gerry

As for the Cadaver odour, there is a big question mark over whether the only questionable spot, was where the ashes of Tasmin Silences Grandpa were probably kept.



Interesting that his name was Mccann  $65*

If there was any DNA evidence existing does this mean that his DNA would be  the same as, or similar to Gerrys ?   Anyone know?
As I said, because I think its right: "I think the really wise person will be the one who can explain the presence of cadaver odour in the apartment, explain how Madeleine left by the front door yet that door was found closed, and then explain how the tracker dogs tracked her to the car park opposite the secondary reception, then to explain how she gets abducted from there."

So you think you have done all that already!
" who can explain the presence of cadaver odour in the apartment"  - so you say it was from ashes in the apartment  - seems like a long shot.
"explain how Madeleine left by the front door yet that door was found closed,"  From memory you were saying intruder had a key. - seems like a long shot.
Then explain how the tracker dogs tracked her to the car park opposite the secondary reception - right the intruder's sweaty odour got onto the two items used fro tracking - seems like a long shot.
Then to explain how she gets abducted from there.  OK I think you have a car in this location.  From my understand that seems an unusual place to have a getaway car parked so it seems like a long shot.

All these long shots - so does that reflect your character.  Maybe it does!








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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2019, 05:20:52 PM »
As I said, because I think its right: "I think the really wise person will be the one who can explain the presence of cadaver odour in the apartment, explain how Madeleine left by the front door yet that door was found closed, and then explain how the tracker dogs tracked her to the car park opposite the secondary reception, then to explain how she gets abducted from there."

So you think you have done all that already!
" who can explain the presence of cadaver odour in the apartment"  - so you say it was from ashes in the apartment  - seems like a long shot.
"explain how Madeleine left by the front door yet that door was found closed,"  From memory you were saying intruder had a key. - seems like a long shot.
Then explain how the tracker dogs tracked her to the car park opposite the secondary reception - right the intruder's sweaty odour got onto the two items used fro tracking - seems like a long shot.
Then to explain how she gets abducted from there.  OK I think you have a car in this location.  From my understand that seems an unusual place to have a getaway car parked so it seems like a long shot.

All these long shots - so does that reflect your character.  Maybe it does!

I think a wise person will understand theres no confirmation of cadaver odour....and as for th tracker dog...it could well  have been following an old scent...a wise person would understand this..imo

Offline faithlilly

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2019, 05:28:39 PM »
I think a wise person will understand theres no confirmation of cadaver odour....and as for th tracker dog...it could well  have been following an old scent...a wise person would understand this..imo

‘This isn't the thread to discuss why we believe what we do’
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2019, 05:32:34 PM »
I think a wise person will understand theres no confirmation of cadaver odour....and as for th tracker dog...it could well  have been following an old scent...a wise person would understand this..imo
A wiser man would know the dog handler knows his dog's reaction.  His body language means something too.
An even wiser man would know tracker dogs track direction as well.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2019, 05:35:10 PM »
A wiser man would know the dog handler knows his dog's reaction.  His body language means something too.
An even wiser man would know tracker dogs track direction as well.

thats your opinion...i think you are over simplyfying things..I think you are wrong

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2019, 05:47:48 PM »
thats your opinion...i think you are over simplyfying things..I think you are wrong
Grime says about the body language in the video and there are plenty of general observations about tracker dogs tracking direction, so the wise man is more amazed rather than reduced to knocking the facts.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2019, 05:50:30 PM »
Grime says about the body language in the video and there are plenty of general observations about tracker dogs tracking direction, so the wise man is more amazed rather than reduced to knocking the facts.

what facts...no confirmation of cadaver odour...no confirmation the tracker dog was following maddies scent of the evening of 3/5/

a wise man understands what is or isnt a fact

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2019, 05:55:54 PM »
what facts...no confirmation of cadaver odour...no confirmation the tracker dog was following maddies scent of the evening of 3/5/

a wise man understands what is or isnt a fact
A wise man would know we were not discussing those particular facts, but Grime's claim about his dog's body language, and the known fact tracker dogs track direction of the trail as well as the trail.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2019, 05:57:46 PM »
A wise man would know we were not discussing those particular facts, but Grime'sclaim about his dog's body language, and the known fact tracker dogs track direction of the trail as well as the trail.
your post is all your opinion and should carry a caveat to show such..the FACT is there is no confirmation of cadaver odour

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2019, 06:04:53 PM »
your post is all your opinion and should carry a caveat to show such..the FACT is there is no confirmation of cadaver odour
I was talking about the hypothetical wise man, that was raised by Barrier (from the book written about the Stonemasons in 1795 AD). 
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10946.msg550030#msg550030
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2019, 06:06:25 PM »
I was talking about the hypothetical wise man, that was raised from the book written about the Stonemasons in 1795 AD.

Im talking about real wise poeple...I dont think the stonemasons of 1795 were familiar with grimes claims

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2019, 06:10:28 PM »
Im talking about real wise poeple...I dont think the stonemasons of 1795 were familiar with grimes claims
So do you disagree that "wise men should keep their counsel"  as Barrier informed (words to the effect) the forum?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10946.msg550030#msg550030
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2019, 06:13:15 PM »
An interesting suggestion;

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I think on this forum the overriding criterion in deciding whether one is open to learning, nice and wise is whether or not they believe Madeleine was abducted.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10927.msg550009#msg550009

Is that a sensible suggestion or is it as ridiculous as I think it is?
Why do you think it is ridiculous?  I think Davel talks a lot of sense, you don’t.  You probably think Faithlilly talks a lot of sense, I don’t.  Why should this be, if not for attitudes towards those based on whether or not they agree on what they think happened to Madeleine?  Plus my comment (which you have chosen to make a big song and dance over) was ever so slightly tongue-in-cheek and there are occasionally exceptions to the rule.  However you clearly think I write ridiculous things so must be one of the stupid ones, not open to learning and nasty with it.   @)(++(*
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".