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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2019, 03:33:10 PM »
When you say you would bet then that indicates a degree of certainty... I don't see how you can make that call with no evidence
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2019, 03:34:57 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 16, 2019, 02:29:03 PM
I don't support either of them... The six were a very long time ago and subsequently changes were brought in to prevent that happening again. Now you are quoting individual cases

Post PACT the miscarriages of justice continue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscarriage_of_justice_cases#United_Kingdom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscarriage_of_justice_cases

Portugal does not feature so perhaps they don't have any.

You only have to Google MET and corruption to turn up numerous hits.  It's the idea that its some elite force to be reckoned with that I don't buy into.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2019, 04:42:22 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on August 16, 2019, 03:34:57 PM
Post PACT the miscarriages of justice continue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscarriage_of_justice_cases#United_Kingdom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscarriage_of_justice_cases

Portugal does not feature so perhaps they don't have any.

You only have to Google MET and corruption to turn up numerous hits.  It's the idea that its some elite force to be reckoned with that I don't buy into.

The tread title is has SY met expectations. You have gone from corruption in the MET to miscarriage of justice in the UK judicial system... Not really on topic.

We've had this discussion before re Portugal. Is it a perfect system with no miscarriages or does it not admit to them.

I still have seen no evidence to support your belief that the PJ have a superior disciplinary record. Something you believe strongly enough to bet on it
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2019, 04:44:32 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on August 16, 2019, 03:34:57 PM
Post PACT the miscarriages of justice continue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscarriage_of_justice_cases#United_Kingdom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscarriage_of_justice_cases

Portugal does not feature so perhaps they don't have any.

You only have to Google MET and corruption to turn up numerous hits.  It's the idea that its some elite force to be reckoned with that I don't buy into.

As Einstein said everything is relative... Are SY an elite force... You would have to compare them to other police forces
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2019, 04:46:33 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on August 16, 2019, 01:48:11 PM
No not wild given the MET's long history of corruption, incompetence, upheld complaints/disciplinary hearings and wrongdoing.  The PJ would have to be pretty bad to exceed this but I don't have all the fact and figures that's why I said I wouldn't mind betting.

Do you have the facts and figures to hand?
Are you claiming that the PJ are less corrupt than the Met?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2019, 05:09:26 PM »
According to this report miscarriages of justice in Portugal cost the state 20 million euros a year

http://www.asjp.pt/2014/06/10/estado-paga-20-milhoes-todos-os-anos-por-erros-a-justica/
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2019, 05:32:12 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on August 16, 2019, 03:34:57 PM
Post PACT the miscarriages of justice continue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscarriage_of_justice_cases#United_Kingdom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscarriage_of_justice_cases

Portugal does not feature so perhaps they don't have any.

You only have to Google MET and corruption to turn up numerous hits.  It's the idea that its some elite force to be reckoned with that I don't buy into.

What do you think about the recent case in portugal where a man beat his wife with a stick with a nail in it.
The judge ruled that as the wife had committed adultery the Bible said the punishment was reasonable as the man's honour had been insulted

The the recent case where a man was found guilty of a violent rape of a UK hitchhiker... He received a suspended sentence and laughed at her as he left court
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2019, 05:44:12 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 16, 2019, 05:32:12 PM
What do you think about the recent case in portugal where a man beat his wife with a stick with a nail in it.
The judge ruled that as the wife had committed adultery the Bible said the punishment was reasonable as the man's honour had been insulted

The the recent case where a man was found guilty of a violent rape of a UK hitchhiker... He received a suspended sentence and laughed at her as he left court
Then there was the case of the woman found axed to death that the courts decided had committed suicide.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2019, 06:34:23 PM »
No cite can be supplied, purely my opinion but if I was to be accused of a crime whether guilty or innocent, I would certainly prefer to be in the British judicial system than the Portuguese judicial system.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2019, 06:35:56 PM »
Quote from: Erngath on August 16, 2019, 06:34:23 PM
No cite can be supplied, purely my opinion but if I was to be accused of a crime whether guilty or innocent, I would certainly prefer to be in the British judicial system than the Portuguese judicial system.

You will need to clarify that Erngath as the UK has three different justice systems, one of which differs significantly from the other two.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2019, 06:37:16 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on August 16, 2019, 06:35:56 PM
You will need to clarify that Erngath as the UK has three different justice systems, one of which differs significantly from the other two.

Either of the three!
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2019, 06:39:49 PM »
Quote from: Erngath on August 16, 2019, 06:34:23 PM
No cite can be supplied, purely my opinion but if I was to be accused of a crime whether guilty or innocent, I would certainly prefer to be in the British judicial system than the Portuguese judicial system.
#metoo
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2019, 06:41:27 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on August 16, 2019, 09:26:37 AM
It seems to me its greatest achievement to date has been to pretty much rule out 'Tannerman' as Dr Totman?

What else has been accomplished?

I don't think they have as Doc Totman was walking in the wrong direction if he was arriving back from the night crèche.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2019, 07:46:28 PM »
And Gerry and Jez claim to have not seen Jane nor Totman so go figure.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has The MET Also Known As Scotland Yard Met Expectation?
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2019, 09:36:02 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on August 16, 2019, 07:46:28 PM
And Gerry and Jez claim to have not seen Jane nor Totman so go figure.
Maybe they saw Julian Totman but not the man walking in the direction Jane said.
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