The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm

[Mrs. B]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SVETLANA_VITORINO.htm

Individual Statement given 8th May 2007

No mention of Gerry McCann being gone for 30 minutes. Short term memory problems, perhaps?

ETA When questioned she says that she did not see anyone strange or any unusual behaviour, but that as she only goes outside to look at the grills, she did not pay much attention.

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[Redblossom]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SVETLANA_VITORINO.htm

Individual Statement given 8th May 2007

No mention of Gerry McCann being gone for 30 minutes. Short term memory problems, perhaps?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS-EMPLOYEES.htm) 4th May 2007

Yes or amnesia or alzheimera disease, i suppose the staff were informally interviewed then formally, as i said its a  total DOGS DINNER and you and no one else can get to the bottom of it but two independent witnesses put matt oldfield  away for half an hour hmm whatever

[icabodcrane]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SVETLANA_VITORINO.htm

Individual Statement given 8th May 2007

No mention of Gerry McCann being gone for 30 minutes. Short term memory problems, perhaps?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS-EMPLOYEES.htm) 4th May 2007

So whilst you feel it is  an affront to question the Ocean Club's receptionist's statement  ... you think it's perfectly acceptable   to doubt and question the statement of this  witness ?

What criteria are you applying to this cherry- picking approach of yours  ?

[Mrs. B]

No, I'm just pointing out the difference in the statements of THIS particular witness, because there IS a difference. But if you have a second statement from receptionist where he states something totally different from what he said in his first one, please feel free to post it.

[Redblossom]

Oh dear oh dear had enough rubbish  for one day mrs b 

[icabodcrane]

No, I'm just pointing out the difference in the statements of THIS particular witness, because there IS a difference. But if you have a second statement from receptionist where he states something totally different from what he said in his first one, please feel free to post it.

The receptionist's statement is 'proven' to be wrong  by the  factual  content of the Ocean Club telephone records  ...  yet you choose to accept his statement regardless

The witness statement of the kitchen staff member, however,  you choose to question on the most tenuos of reasons

You have an agenda Mrs  B

I didn't see it at first ...  but it becomes ever more apparent

[Mrs. B]

Aww... you sound a bit upset? Not going your way, is it? Ah well, never mind....

[Mrs. B]

No, I'm just pointing out the difference in the statements of THIS particular witness, because there IS a difference. But if you have a second statement from receptionist where he states something totally different from what he said in his first one, please feel free to post it.

The receptionist's statement is 'proven' to be wrong  by the  factual  content of the Ocean Club telephone records  ...  yet you choose to accept his statement regardless

The witness of the kitchen staff member, however,  you choose to question on the most tenuos of reasons

You have an agenda Mrs  B

I didn't see it at first ...  but it becomes ever more apparent

No it's not, the telephone records show that A phone call was made at a specific time, it does not exclude that OTHER phone calls could have been made from either other lines OR mobile phones.

YOUR agenda is fairly obvious by the way, there's no need to beat around the bush.

[AnneGuedes]

This thread arouse a lot of passion. Is now everybody convinced that nobody called the GNR or the 112 before, finally, the receptionist admitted to call the landline and only nb of the GNR ?
One observer would likely remark that when a child is missing the first thing that crosses one's mind is to look around and quickly.

[sadie]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SVETLANA_VITORINO.htm

Individual Statement given 8th May 2007

No mention of Gerry McCann being gone for 30 minutes. Short term memory problems, perhaps?

ETA When questioned she says that she did not see anyone strange or any unusual behaviour, but that as she only goes outside to look at the grills, she did not pay much attention.

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I think this speaks oceans:

... as she only goes outside to to look at the grills, she does not pay much attention

[Mrs. B]

Is now everybody convinced that nobody called the GNR or the 112 before, finally, the receptionist admitted to call the landline and only nb of the GNR ?

No, whatever gave you that idea?

I've not seen any statement where the receptionist admits that he did NOT call the police at the time he originally states. Until I have, I have no reason to doubt the witness' original statement.

[icabodcrane]

Is now everybody convinced that nobody called the GNR or the 112 before, finally, the receptionist admitted to call the landline and only nb of the GNR ?

No, whatever gave you that idea?

I've not seen any statement where the receptionist admits that he did NOT call the police at the time he originally states. Until I have, I have no reason to doubt the witness' original statement.

Despite the phone records proving the contrary, you remain convinced that there is no reason to doubt the receptionist's statement

OK,  let's look, in detail,  at this statement which you do not doubt

He was contacted by a member of staff from the tapas restaurant between 9.30pm and 10.00pm, who informed him that the daughter of some guests who were dining there had disappeared.

Then he immediately contacted the GNR in Lagos, shortly after this the child's father and John Hill arrived at reception and he phoned the GNR again

According to this undoubtable witness, Kate had left the table, found Madeleine missing, and come back to raise the alarm before 10pm, despite the McCanns and their friends saying they were still at the table at that point ... does that lead you to doubt the witness's statement ? 

The witness adds that he immediately phoned the police,  and shortly after Gerry and John Hill arrived at reception,  yet John Hill says he was first contacted on his mobile at 22.28pm and presented himself at the resort five minutes later  (  some time after 10.30pm ) ...  does that lead you to doubt the witness's statement  ?

[debunker]

No. It leads me to doubt the accuracy of the available evidence.

[icabodcrane]

No. It leads me to doubt the accuracy of the available evidence.

ALL  evidence  ?  including that given by the McCanns and their friends  ? 

[Benice]

No. It leads me to doubt the accuracy of the available evidence.

It confirms to me what hugely varying powers of recall different people have. 

IMO All the witnesses involved in this case did their best to remember what they had done/seen etc etc.  and the fact that some statements contradict others does not mean that ANYONE deliberately lied.