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Offline VIXTE

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #705 on: October 27, 2013, 09:24:51 AM »
Can they do it retrospectively though?

That depends on what data has been collected.

A lot can be done with mobile phones. And this is not a myth! If you read the info from Snowden from the Guardian newspaper, the US collects the data on everyone on this earth, all phone calls, all internet searches etc.. and the UK is one of I think 4 countries that has access to this..

For example this is from the Guardian report: When Snowden met the solicitors while in Hong Kong, although their phones were all switched off, he said they can easily be turned into a microphones even if switched off.. so he said the only way to be sure is to put the mobile phones in the fridge, so he put all of their phones in the fridge and then they started talking.

One would think the Snowden is being paranoid, but IMO the guy knows what he is doing and also the Guardian did not lie about his report.

Only what I am not sure is when this level of surveillance upon everyone has started.. I think it is mentioned it was done under George W Bush and I have no clue when G W Bush came into office.

At least, the surveillance data can be used for a good cause.

I remember back in the 2007 there was also a talk about the US satellite surveillance of the area.. i.e there was a possibility that US has recorded the movements in PDL at that night from their satellite pointing there but the answer from the US was that the satellite was turned to another angle and was not filming the area.. so maybe not, but now after all of the info from Snowden I am thinking there must be something in their data they collected which can help this case.
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C.Edwards

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #706 on: October 27, 2013, 09:27:21 AM »
That depends on what data has been collected.

A lot can be done with mobile phones. And this is not a myth! If you read the info from Snowden from the Guardian newspaper, the US collects the data on everyone on this earth, all phone calls, all internet searches etc.. and the UK is one of I think 4 countries that has access to this..

For example this is from the Guardian report: When Snowden met the solicitors while in Hong Kong, although their phones were all switched off, he said they can easily be turned into a microphones even if switched off.. so he said the only way to be sure is to put the mobile phones in the fridge, so he put all of their phones in the fridge and then they started talking.

One would think the Snowden is being paranoid, but IMO the guy knows what he is doing and also the Guardian did not lie about his report.

You're getting too carried away. It is not possible to do what you are claiming with mobile phones! Google cellphone triangulation and have a quick read.

Offline VIXTE

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #707 on: October 27, 2013, 09:37:26 AM »
You're getting too carried away. It is not possible to do what you are claiming with mobile phones! Google cellphone triangulation and have a quick read.


I am not a conspirator, all this is still available in the Guardian.. read the paragraph 'Access all areas'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/03/edward-snowden-files-john-lanchester

and here about the phones in the fridges
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/why-snowdens-visitors-put-their-phones-in-the-fridge/?_r=0

C.Edwards

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #708 on: October 27, 2013, 10:07:07 AM »

I am not a conspirator, all this is still available in the Guardian.. read the paragraph 'Access all areas'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/03/edward-snowden-files-john-lanchester

and here about the phones in the fridges
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/why-snowdens-visitors-put-their-phones-in-the-fridge/?_r=0

6 years is a long time in mobile technology.  All I'm telling you is technically what was possible to do back in 2007.  Don't mention fridges around here! ;-)

Offline VIXTE

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #709 on: October 27, 2013, 10:20:59 AM »
6 years is a long time in mobile technology.  All I'm telling you is technically what was possible to do back in 2007.  Don't mention fridges around here! ;-)

You are absolutely right re 6 years.. but if they had all of the data from 6 years back.. they are still able to work it out and in the worst case scenario they can at least know which mobile numbers have left the area that night and were 'connecting' elsewhere the next morning.