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Offline Vertigo Swirl

March 2008
I was beginning to get past my early certainty that Madeleine must have been taken by a paedophile and murdered. I was coming to realize that didn’t have to be the answer. [Madeleine]
Are you able to understand and empathise with a mother who might look for other scenarios to concentrate on other than the daily rape of her young child by paedophiles?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Are you able to understand and empathise with a mother who might look for other scenarios to concentrate on other than the daily rape of her young child by paedophiles?

Yes. But in this case abduction isn't a proven fact, let alone anything else.
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Offline Lace

March 2008
I was beginning to get past my early certainty that Madeleine must have been taken by a paedophile and murdered. I was coming to realize that didn’t have to be the answer. [Madeleine]

The word in that paragraph is 'certainty'  Kate got past her early 'certainty'  doesn't mean that she didn't think there was a possibility that Madeleine was taken by a Paedophile.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Yes. But in this case abduction isn't a proven fact, let alone anything else.
What’s that got to do with what Kate wrote, something which you claim meant they had “lost interest in the paedophile angle”?
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Offline Brietta

March 2008
I was beginning to get past my early certainty that Madeleine must have been taken by a paedophile and murdered. I was coming to realize that didn’t have to be the answer. [Madeleine]

Thank you.

It is interesting to witness your cognitive reasoning from your posts.  I think the interpretation you have read into that sentence quite astounding particularly when the quotation is read and understood in context.

Kate was describing her research into missing and exploited children and the known horrible fates that had awaited some and which had shaped her determination to do something positive to help by becoming involved in promoting the Amber Alert system in Europe.

That did not distract her from Madeleine's unknown fate and I think it is in poor taste to minimise what it must have cost her to come to terms with her suffering.

Is it any wonder that such wilful distortion of the facts concerning Kate McCann has become - in my opinion - the hallmark of your posts about her.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Thank you.

It is interesting to witness your cognitive reasoning from your posts.  I think the interpretation you have read into that sentence quite astounding particularly when the quotation is read and understood in context.

Kate was describing her research into missing and exploited children and the known horrible fates that had awaited some and which had shaped her determination to do something positive to help by becoming involved in promoting the Amber Alert system in Europe.

That did not distract her from Madeleine's unknown fate and I think it is in poor taste to minimise what it must have cost her to come to terms with her suffering.

Is it any wonder that such wilful distortion of the facts concerning Kate McCann has become - in my opinion - the hallmark of your posts about her.

Apparently the parents came to terms  with their daughters fate-quite early on- still in Portugual ( in some interview).

It was a great drama, scary story- headliner-child snatched by paedo gang whilst sleeping- they jemmied windows and snatched her, while we were like in our garden like as like at home like you know like...

The parents behaviour has not convinced me they ever thought their daughter was snatched via a jemmied shutter/open window by a paedo gang. Not convinced me at all.

Are you able to understand and empathise with a mother who might look for other scenarios to concentrate on other than the daily rape of her young child by paedophiles?

There are two situations to discuss:
1. was the backlash from independent thinkers about the parents behaviour not increasing while  Kate wastelling people their daughter was abducted and believed to being 'raped daily'.

They then had to look at a nice ending. a happy smiley family who were sad and childess took her and she is happy with them- this would bring back on board those vulnerable  ,easily led 'nutters' who sent in letters  offering solutions/assistance to find her - maybe along with some money for the fund.


2, Maybe her friendship with known paedo, CF who really cheered her up, (while her daughter was believed to be with paedo gang) told her it wasn't a paedo gang. 
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Apparently the parents came to terms  with their daughters fate-quite early on- still in Portugual ( in some interview).

It was a great drama, scary story- headliner-child snatched by paedo gang whilst sleeping- they jemmied windows and snatched her, while we were like in our garden like as like at home like you know like...

The parents behaviour has not convinced me they ever thought their daughter was snatched via a jemmied shutter/open window by a paedo gang. Not convinced me at all.

There are two situations to discuss:
1. was the backlash from independent thinkers about the parents behaviour not increasing while  Kate wastelling people their daughter was abducted and believed to being 'raped daily'.

They then had to look at a nice ending. a happy smiley family who were sad and childess took her and she is happy with them- this would bring back on board those vulnerable  ,easily led 'nutters' who sent in letters  offering solutions/assistance to find her - maybe along with some money for the fund.


2, Maybe her friendship with known paedo, CF who really cheered her up, (while her daughter was believed to be with paedo gang) told her it wasn't a paedo gang. 


Ah yes, Clement Freud, the McCanns friend.

« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 02:42:48 PM by John »
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Offline Brietta

Apparently the parents came to terms  with their daughters fate-quite early on- still in Portugual ( in some interview).

It was a great drama, scary story- headliner-child snatched by paedo gang whilst sleeping- they jemmied windows and snatched her, while we were like in our garden like as like at home like you know like...

The parents behaviour has not convinced me they ever thought their daughter was snatched via a jemmied shutter/open window by a paedo gang. Not convinced me at all.

There are two situations to discuss:
1. was the backlash from independent thinkers about the parents behaviour not increasing while  Kate wastelling people their daughter was abducted and believed to being 'raped daily'.

They then had to look at a nice ending. a happy smiley family who were sad and childess took her and she is happy with them- this would bring back on board those vulnerable  ,easily led 'nutters' who sent in letters  offering solutions/assistance to find her - maybe along with some money for the fund.


2, Maybe her friendship with known paedo, CF who really cheered her up, (while her daughter was believed to be with paedo gang) told her it wasn't a paedo gang. 

Is it any wonder that putting sentiments like that into practice while totally losing the golden hours (bet he didn't even know what that meant at the time) that Amaral totally screwed up the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance,
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 02:43:12 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Is it any wonder that putting sentiments like that into practice while totally losing the golden hours (bet he didn't even know what that meant at the time) that Amaral totally screwed up the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance,


The parents screwed up Madeliene's life, and left a trail of distruction  in the path.

 I can find fault with the PJ and have been vocal about that.Unike you,and the supporters here, I Do it in a constructive way- without name calling and blaming them for Madelienes fate.
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Offline Mr Gray


The parents screwed up Madeliene's life, and left a trail of distruction  in the path.

 I can find fault with the PJ and have been vocal about that.Unike you,and the supporters here, I Do it in a constructive way- without name calling and blaming them for Madelienes fate.

no one blames the pj  for maddie's fate, have another think....they blame them for such  a pathetic investigation into her disappearance.

Offline Brietta


The parents screwed up Madeliene's life, and left a trail of distruction  in the path.

 I can find fault with the PJ and have been vocal about that.Unike you,and the supporters here, I Do it in a constructive way- without name calling and blaming them for Madelienes fate.

Please note, I said ... "Amaral totally screwed up the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance".  Is it any wonder that there is so much misinformation surrounding Madeleine's case when sceptics place such reliance on getting the simplest of statements totally wrong.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

no one blames the pj  for maddie's fate, have another think....they blame them for such  a pathetic investigation into her disappearance.

I am pretty sure there are a lot of threads about Amaral. The hatred directed at him by, people who do not know him or what evidence the PJ actually have, is  interesting.


She forgave the 'abductor' [suspected paedophile], but wanted Amaral to feel fear.

Yeah, strange one that.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2019, 09:37:55 PM by Brietta »
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Offline Mr Gray

I am pretty sure there are a lot of threads about Amaral. The hatred directed at him by, people who do not know him or what evidence the PJ actually have, is  interesting.

Kate, that good catholic mother and daughter/wife, placed a curse on him. I am sure the pope would have spat out his cornflakes seeing that on TV.

She forgave the 'abductor' [suspected paedophile], but wanted Amaral to feel fear.

Yeah, strange one that.

none of its strange when seen in context

Offline Eleanor

none of its strange when seen in context

Mistaken Identity has no context.

Offline sadie


The parents screwed up Madeliene's life, and left a trail of distruction  in the path.

 I can find fault with the PJ and have been vocal about that.Unike you,and the supporters here, I Do it in a constructive way- without name calling and blaming them for Madelienes fate.

You do it in a constructive way, do you?   (&^&