Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?

[Lace]

Indeed - the evidence that was collected was found to be "inconclusive" in terms of identifying for sure the DNA of MM. Science moves forward though and we do now have claims that a conclusive analysis is attainable.

Billy,  it was a mixed sample from as many as five people.    It is impossible to separate the  DNA,  unless the Scientists had the DNA of the five people to compare it with.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Billy,  it was a mixed sample from as many as five people.    It is impossible to separate the  DNA,  unless the Scientists had the DNA of the five people to compare it with.

Maybe not as many as five... maybe three.... and in this case the scientists do have refernce samples of at least five people. I'd like to see Dr Perlin attempt to sepearate the DNA. He claims he may be able to.

[Carana]

Maybe not as many as five... maybe three.... and in this case the scientists do have refernec samples of at least five people. I'd like to see Dr Perlin attempt to sepearate the DNA. He claims he may be able to.

Have you checked out what Dr Perlin's claims are and how his lab might be useful, or not,  in this case?

[Lace]

Maybe not as many as five... maybe three.... and in this case the scientists do have refernec samples of at least five people. I'd like to see Dr Perlin attempt to sepearate the DNA. He claims he may be able to.

Not without of the DNA of the people in the mix. 

[jassi]

Have you checked out what Dr Perlin's claims are and how his lab might be useful, or not,  in this case?

There's plenty on line , if you look.

e.g. https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/new-dna-analysis-could-help-solve-madeleine-mccann-mystery-expert-says-20190329-p518zx.html

Whether it would be helpful remains to be seen.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Not without of the DNA of the people in the mix.

Reference samples were taken and I presume it would also be possible to take a DNA swab from the German sex offender.

[The General]

Billy,  it was a mixed sample from as many as five people.    It is impossible to separate the  DNA,  unless the Scientists had the DNA of the five people to compare it with.

Really? What about DNA from one or more of them? Why would you need all of them to confirm one?

[Robittybob1]

Really? What about DNA from one or more of them? Why would you need all of them to confirm one?

If there was a mixture of all 5 persons I'm not certain how accurate the identification would be.  It would start to become like a Lotto you could get millions of winning combinations.

[G-Unit]

The thread seems to have moved from discussing whether the dog alerts are evidence to discussing the forensic evidence. In my opinion the dog alerts could be used as evidence, but only if there was other evidence suggesting that Madeleine died and that the location of her death was apartment 5A. As death doesn't always produce forensic evidence the lack of it doesn't rule out the possibilty of death in 5A.

[Robittybob1]

The thread seems to have moved from discussing whether the dog alerts are evidence to discussing the forensic evidence. In my opinion the dog alerts could be used as evidence, but only if there was other evidence suggesting that Madeleine died and that the location of her death was apartment 5A. As death doesn't always produce forensic evidence the lack of it doesn't rule out the possibilty of death in 5A.

Dog alerts - samples get taken - DNA analysis - Interpretation.  they all follow each other.

[The General]

Dog alerts - samples get taken - DNA analysis - Interpretation.  they all follow each other.

So a German nonce killed MM in 5a, cleaned up, then took her with him now? I need to loop back in.

[Robittybob1]

So a German nonce killed MM in 5a, cleaned up, then took her with him now? I need to loop back in.

Not in my theory.  But everyone can try and develop their own theory. 
If he took her he could have picked her up from the apartment, or the footpath, or as a hit and run victim.

I do think she had got out of the apartment so if he was there he could have picked her up or been handed her from someone else who picked her off the street.

been handed her from someone else who picked her off the street. was my pick.   I have always thought whoever took her had to hand her on.

[Brietta]

So a German nonce killed MM in 5a, cleaned up, then took her with him now? I need to loop back in.

Will you please clean up your language and attitude while on the McCann Board:  I have noted that you have quite a different attitude when posting on the Bamber Board and actually show some manners there.  So I know you can do it so please try a little harder to posting with a little more respect to the members here and to the forum.  Thank you.

[Mr Gray]

The thread seems to have moved from discussing whether the dog alerts are evidence to discussing the forensic evidence. In my opinion the dog alerts could be used as evidence, but only if there was other evidence suggesting that Madeleine died and that the location of her death was apartment 5A. As death doesn't always produce forensic evidence the lack of it doesn't rule out the possibilty of death in 5A.

i cant see how it could be used as evidence when grime and harrison both say they have no evidentail value and Grimes comment re which alerts could become corroberated. If he has changed his mind...which he appears to have then that makes him an unreliable witness.

[The General]

i cant see how it could be used as evidence when grime and harrison both say they have no evidentail value and Grimes comment re which alerts could become corroberated. If he has changed his mind...which he appears to have then that makes him an unreliable witness.

Marty Grime is preeminent in his field, with his services sought after globally.