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Offline Eleanor

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1380 on: July 06, 2020, 02:14:24 PM »
Human cellular material under the floor tiles - but you know that already!

Did it point to anyone in particular?

Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1381 on: July 06, 2020, 02:30:56 PM »
Human cellular material under the floor tiles - but you know that already!
So, let's recap;
 - EVRD dogs were deployed.
 - EVRD dogs alerted in a specific spot (with any residue being invisible to the human eye)
 - Upon closer examination human cellular material was found.
 - Derek Acorah walked in and was 'possessed' by a malevolent spirit called Sergio
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1382 on: July 06, 2020, 03:32:24 PM »
Despite all the evidence to the contrary, and in denial of the facts, the Jersey media still insist on referring to the coconut myth. Evidence that the item concerned was never conclusively identified as a coconut and indeed, was even found to contain collagen, (only found in mammals) has been ignored. The evidence of a respected Professor who stated that the bones found had been burnt and buried whilst fresh and fleshed has been totally ignored. Even a few weeks ago a media source in Jersey was asking me about this nonsense. Lenny Harper

http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2017/06/statement-of-former-deputy-chief-police.html
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1383 on: July 06, 2020, 03:34:05 PM »
So, let's recap;
 - EVRD dogs were deployed.
 - EVRD dogs alerted in a specific spot (with any residue being invisible to the human eye)
 - Upon closer examination human cellular material was found.
 - Derek Acorah walked in and was 'possessed' by a malevolent spirit called Sergio
And this tells us that...............................................................................(fill in the blanks).
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1384 on: July 06, 2020, 04:44:01 PM »
Thanks. Was this before or after her book?

Is that a for real question?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1385 on: July 06, 2020, 04:51:10 PM »
Despite all the evidence to the contrary, and in denial of the facts, the Jersey media still insist on referring to the coconut myth. Evidence that the item concerned was never conclusively identified as a coconut and indeed, was even found to contain collagen, (only found in mammals) has been ignored. The evidence of a respected Professor who stated that the bones found had been burnt and buried whilst fresh and fleshed has been totally ignored. Even a few weeks ago a media source in Jersey was asking me about this nonsense. Lenny Harper

http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2017/06/statement-of-former-deputy-chief-police.html

Lenny Harper was sacked as I understand....making unsubstantiated claims...

Offline Brietta

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1386 on: July 06, 2020, 04:56:13 PM »
The dogs went no further down the street than the Tapas entrance. It was another 100m to the Baptisa;

The dog went into the path on the left, heading toward the main road (Francisco Gentil Martins). Once there, he crossed the street and close to block 6’s wall, turned right, heading toward the contiguous parking area, more particularly toward a light post where he sniffed the ground. After this, he crossed the street again and headed toward the resort’s access zone, sniffing the door which was closed at that time. He again went to the parking zone, but finally lost interest in the search, i.e lost the scent.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANTONIO_SILVA.htm

Thank you, I was aware of that in the context that Isobel Duarte the McCann lawyer raised the issue in 2012.

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Shortly after Madeleine was taken from Apartment 5A at the Ocean Club at Praia da Luz, five years ago this Thursday, a sniffer dog picked up her scent at a nearby car park.

Mrs Duarte said: “This was a significant moment at a critical time, yet there is very ­little about it in the police files. There doesn’t appear to have been any forensic work at the spot in the car park identified by the dog. More work should have been done.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/317111/Madeleine-McCann-The-lost-clues


I am really interested in finding the thread where that situation was discussed in some depth by members.  I remember it as being interesting and informative.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1387 on: July 06, 2020, 07:13:09 PM »
Did it point to anyone in particular?
It didn't point directly at Madeleine. 
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1388 on: July 06, 2020, 07:17:38 PM »
It didn't point directly at Madeleine.

Thought not.

Thanks, Rob.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1389 on: July 06, 2020, 08:16:09 PM »
Thank you, I was aware of that in the context that Isobel Duarte the McCann lawyer raised the issue in 2012.

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Shortly after Madeleine was taken from Apartment 5A at the Ocean Club at Praia da Luz, five years ago this Thursday, a sniffer dog picked up her scent at a nearby car park.

Mrs Duarte said: “This was a significant moment at a critical time, yet there is very ­little about it in the police files. There doesn’t appear to have been any forensic work at the spot in the car park identified by the dog. More work should have been done.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/317111/Madeleine-McCann-The-lost-clues


I am really interested in finding the thread where that situation was discussed in some depth by members.  I remember it as being interesting and informative.

What did Duarte expect? Forensic operatives crawling around taking samples from a lamp post in a car park?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1390 on: July 06, 2020, 08:27:17 PM »
Lenny Harper was sacked as I understand....making unsubstantiated claims...

More likely for NOT being a pathetic YES man.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1391 on: July 06, 2020, 08:41:25 PM »
More likely for NOT being a pathetic YES man.

And for dishing out £96,000 to Martin Grime.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1392 on: July 06, 2020, 09:13:21 PM »
Did it point to anyone in particular?

All of MM’s DNA markers were present on swab 3a.... but then so was DNA from at least two other contributors.. Is it possible we can say MMs DNA was present in the sample? The FSS said the simple answer would be yes but added that this simple conclusion wasn’t possible for them to assert. They described the result as “inconclusive”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1393 on: July 06, 2020, 10:40:57 PM »
What did Duarte expect? Forensic operatives crawling around taking samples from a lamp post in a car park?

Didn't they crawl around in gardens ~ apartments ~ villas ~ floor spaces ~ cess pits ~ cars ~ garages and gymnasium ~ three months after the event to achieve a big fat zero for their efforts.

Don't you think it might have been worthwhile to put in a little more effort to finding out why ~ not months after the event, but mere days ~ the search dogs one after the other came to an abrupt halt in mid search in of all places ~ a car park.
What might one find in a car park, gee whiz! ... cars.

So a skip and a jump away from the scene of an abduction we have dogs losing a trail in a car park.  What was to prevent a guy like Tannerman from walking around block six and hopping into a vehicle parked at that spot?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1394 on: July 06, 2020, 10:47:07 PM »
Didn't they crawl around in gardens ~ apartments ~ villas ~ floor spaces ~ cess pits ~ cars ~ garages and gymnasium ~ three months after the event to achieve a big fat zero for their efforts.

Don't you think it might have been worthwhile to put in a little more effort to finding out why ~ not months after the event, but mere days ~ the search dogs one after the other came to an abrupt halt in mid search in of all places ~ a car park.
What might one find in a car park, gee whiz! ... cars.

So a skip and a jump away from the scene of an abduction we have dogs losing a trail in a car park.  What was to prevent a guy like Tannerman from walking around block six and hopping into a vehicle parked at that spot?

I don't think they did any of that with cotton buds in their hands.
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