Did Kate McCann ever explain why she changed her story

[John]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

[icabodcrane]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults   

[John]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

So you would expect us to believe he left the room like that with the whole world looking in?

[icabodcrane]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

So you would expect us to believe he left the room like that with the whole world looking in?

No

I am saying that when you insisted it was  'inevitable'  that Kate McCann,  herself would have closed the window  (  in order to protect her sleeping infants  )  ...  you were wrong

[gilet]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

So you would expect us to believe he left the room like that with the whole world looking in?

No

I am saying that when you insisted it was  'inevitable'  that Kate McCann,  herself would have closed the window  (  in order to protect her sleeping infants  )  ...  you were wrong

But the fact remains that it is highly likely if not inevitable that someone (Kate or another) at some point would have closed the curtains and window to protect the twins and that is the likely reason they are not as they were on first examination.

[puglove]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

I can understand Kate's desperation, but why did she leave the twins and run outside? What if, while she ran outside, the abductor was waiting to take the twins? Why did she leave the twins in the room where Maddie had been taken from?

[John]

I accept what you say, however, the state in which the police photographer found the room has no relevance to how Kate found it.  A photograph showing a closed window and a lowered shutter with partially drawn curtains means absolutely nothing in terms of evidence of anything.

[gilet]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

I can understand Kate's desperation, but why did she leave the twins and run outside? What if, while she ran outside, the abductor was waiting to take the twins? Why did she leave the twins in the room where Maddie had been taken from?

Perhaps she was already outside on the balcony, down the little steps, looking for Madeleine and went out to the road to see if she was there? Almost at the Tapas by that stage.

I know thats what I would have done.

[icabodcrane]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

So you would expect us to believe he left the room like that with the whole world looking in?

No

I am saying that when you insisted it was  'inevitable'  that Kate McCann,  herself would have closed the window  (  in order to protect her sleeping infants  )  ...  you were wrong

But the fact remains that it is highly likely if not inevitable that someone (Kate or another) at some point would have closed the curtains and window to protect the twins and that is the likely reason they are not as they were on first examination.

Gerry states that it was he who closed the window and shutters after he  had returned to the apartment

Of course,  from that point on, the twins were never left alone anyway,  so 'protection'  was no longer an issue .  I was pointing out that John was wrong when he said Kate had  'inevitably'  shut the widow herself  ...'she didn't  ...  she left them, alone, in a room where the curtains, windows and shutters were all wide open

That is what happened

[John]

Perhaps she was already outside on the balcony, down the little steps, looking for Madeleine and went out to the road to see if she was there? Almost at the Tapas by that stage.

I know thats what I would have done.

I go with that, she would have been outside thinking that Maddie had awoken and wandered off.  That certainly puts the "she must have died at the hands of the McCanns" conspiracy into the shade quite a bit?

I love how all the bits fit together eventually.  Truth never changes...only the lie!

[puglove]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

I can understand Kate's desperation, but why did she leave the twins and run outside? What if, while she ran outside, the abductor was waiting to take the twins? Why did she leave the twins in the room where Maddie had been taken from?

This might be simplistic, but why didn't Kate scoop up the twins from their beds and hold them tight? They were all she had left. But all she did was put a hand on their backs to check if they were breathing. Then, sadly, leave them the next day in a "kid's club"? I still don't think that the Mccanns were responsible, but they made some massively clumsy mistakes.

[John]

Gerry states that it was he who closed the window and shutters after he  had returned to the apartment

Of course,  from that point on, the twins were never left alone anyway,  so 'protection'  was no longer an issue .  I was pointing out that John was wrong when he said Kate had  'inevitably'  shut the widow herself  ...'she didn't  ...  she left them, alone, in a room where the curtains, windows and shutters were all wide open

That is what happened

Thank you icabodcrane, now we are getting somewhere.  So now we have it eventually, what the police photographer photographed was a scene which had changed somewhat from the moment Kate found that Maddie had gone.

[gilet]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

I can understand Kate's desperation, but why did she leave the twins and run outside? What if, while she ran outside, the abductor was waiting to take the twins? Why did she leave the twins in the room where Maddie had been taken from?

This might be simplistic, but why didn't Kate scoop up the twins from their beds and hold them tight? They were all she had left. But all she did was put a hand on their backs to check if they were breathing. Then, sadly, leave them the next day in a "kid's club"? I still don't think that the Mccanns were responsible, but they made some massively clumsy mistakes.

Probably because its extremely difficult to search in cupboards, under things, open doors etc with two two year olds in your arms. Have you ever tried it, especially in a blind panic when the focus is actually a missing child?

Are you aware of the two reasons the twins were taken later in the morning of the 4th to the children's club?

Well those reasons are that it was a more normal environment for them than an apartment block which was being searched by dozens of police etc.

And also there was no family to look after them till they arrived from England as Gerry and kate and the Tapas group were in Portimao and elsewhere giving statements for most of the day. The people who they were most familiar with who were available to look after them were the nannies in the children's club.

[gilet]

Perhaps she was already outside on the balcony, down the little steps, looking for Madeleine and went out to the road to see if she was there? Almost at the Tapas by that stage.

I know thats what I would have done.

I go with that, she would have been outside thinking that Maddie had awoken and wandered off.  That certainly puts the "she must have died at the hands of the McCanns" conspiracy into the shade quite a bit?

I love how all the bits fit together eventually.  Truth never changes...only the lie!

Even if at the back of her mind she was thinking, "Madeleine can't have wandered off, she wouldn't wander off", it would be a totally natural, probably instinctive reaction to check whether she had done so.

[puglove]

A police photo in such circumstances is not a genuine record of what the apartment was like the moment Kate discovered Maddie had disappeared.  In order to protect the other sleeping kids she inevitably closed the window and the shutter.

You are quite wrong

In his May 10th police statement Gerry McCann clearly states that when he rushed back to the apartment after Kate had come to the tapas bar to tell them that madeleine had been  'taken'  he found the curtains, window,  and shutters all open

That's how the room was,  with the twins in the cots,  when she left them  to go and find the other adults

I can understand Kate's desperation, but why did she leave the twins and run outside? What if, while she ran outside, the abductor was waiting to take the twins? Why did she leave the twins in the room where Maddie had been taken from?

This might be simplistic, but why didn't Kate scoop up the twins from their beds and hold them tight? They were all she had left. But all she did was put a hand on their backs to check if they were breathing. Then, sadly, leave them the next day in a "kid's club"? I still don't think that the Mccanns were responsible, but they made some massively clumsy mistakes.

Probably because its extremely difficult to search in cupboards, under things, open doors etc with two two year olds in your arms. Have you ever tried it, especially in a blind panic when the focus is actually a missing child?

Are you aware of the two reasons the twins were taken later in the morning of the 4th to the children's club?

Well those reasons are that it was a more normal environment for them than an apartment block which was being searched by dozens of police etc.

And also there was no family to look after them till they arrived from England as Gerry and kate and the Tapas group were in Portimao and elsewhere giving statements for most of the day. The people who they were most familiar with who were available to look after them were the nannies in the children's club.

Kate didn't search the room with the twins in her arms. She left them asleep. She couldn't understand why they slept so soundly when the room was in uproar. She checked them, with her hand on their backs, because they slept so soundly. And they had 2 sets of grandparents to care for them, if the McCanns chose to leave them at home, while they had a "grown-up" holiday. Which they should have done.