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Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #180 on: August 14, 2020, 10:57:09 PM »
Surely that was worth a warning?  I haven’t had my daily 5% yet.

I don't think holding obviously wrong opinions is against the rules, although posting them as facts might be. You didn't do that though, did you?
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Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #181 on: August 14, 2020, 11:12:12 PM »
I don't think holding obviously wrong opinions is against the rules, although posting them as facts might be. You didn't do that though, did you?
Yes I did, best get out the whipping stick, you know I love to be punished.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #182 on: August 14, 2020, 11:30:05 PM »
I don't think holding obviously wrong opinions is against the rules, although posting them as facts might be. You didn't do that though, did you?

Who can possibly decide if an opinion is obviously wrong

Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #183 on: August 14, 2020, 11:36:07 PM »
Who can possibly decide if an opinion is obviously wrong

Anyone who doesn't agree with you.  There's a lot of it about on this Forum
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #184 on: August 14, 2020, 11:39:18 PM »
Anyone who doesn't agree with you.
Perhaps they are the ones  who are wrong

Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #185 on: August 14, 2020, 11:43:11 PM »
Perhaps they are the ones  who are wrong

Almost certainly, I would say.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #186 on: August 15, 2020, 08:20:14 AM »
Who can possibly decide if an opinion is obviously wrong

When the opinion is obviously ludicrous most people can see it's wrong.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #187 on: August 15, 2020, 08:37:56 AM »
When the opinion is obviously ludicrous most people can see it's wrong.
You mean such as the dog alerts support the idea there was a body in 5a...yes I understand now

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #188 on: August 15, 2020, 09:09:49 AM »
You mean such as the dog alerts support the idea there was a body in 5a...yes I understand now

Mark Harrison didn't find that idea ludicrous.

Deploy the EVRD to search the house and garden to ensure Madeleine McCann's remains are not present. The dog may also indicate if a body has been stored in the recent past and then moved off the property, though this is not evidential merely intelligence.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #189 on: August 15, 2020, 09:13:24 AM »
Mark Harrison didn't find that idea ludicrous.

Deploy the EVRD to search the house and garden to ensure Madeleine McCann's remains are not present. The dog may also indicate if a body has been stored in the recent past and then moved off the property, though this is not evidential merely intelligence.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

He says the alerts are not evidential and therefore cannot support any theory...and if course he said AFTER these alerts happened that no inference can be drawn from these alerts....that's quite clear.

The point is that a belief that an opinion is ludicrously wrong is just another opinion...you should understand that

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #190 on: August 15, 2020, 09:20:56 AM »
Mark Harrison didn't find that idea ludicrous.

Deploy the EVRD to search the house and garden to ensure Madeleine McCann's remains are not present. The dog may also indicate if a body has been stored in the recent past and then moved off the property, though this is not evidential merely intelligence.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

you quote harrison who said this...AFTER the searches..


However, it must be stated any such indications without any physical evidence to support them can not have any evidential value, being unconfirmed indications. Additionally I consider no inference can be drawn as to whether a human cadaver has previously been in any location without other supporting physical evidence.


Mark Harrison clearly states the alerts DO NOT support the previous presence of a body in 5a

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #191 on: August 15, 2020, 10:08:15 AM »
you quote harrison who said this...AFTER the searches..


However, it must be stated any such indications without any physical evidence to support them can not have any evidential value, being unconfirmed indications. Additionally I consider no inference can be drawn as to whether a human cadaver has previously been in any location without other supporting physical evidence.


Mark Harrison clearly states the alerts DO NOT support the previous presence of a body in 5a

Have you never wondered why he changed his mind? I have. Eddie was certainly capable of indicating where a body had been when no forensic evidence was recoverable. What he could do once he could do again, surely?

Further searches identified a location where the E.V.R.D. alerted in the front bedroom of the offenders empty next door dwelling house. When interviewed the suspect admitted that the body had lain in the room for 1 hour prior to disposal. Forensic teams were unable to extract any forensic evidence despite being shown the exact position.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #192 on: August 15, 2020, 10:14:52 AM »
Have you never wondered why he changed his mind? I have. Eddie was certainly capable of indicating where a body had been when no forensic evidence was recoverable. What he could do once he could do again, surely?

Further searches identified a location where the E.V.R.D. alerted in the front bedroom of the offenders empty next door dwelling house. When interviewed the suspect admitted that the body had lain in the room for 1 hour prior to disposal. Forensic teams were unable to extract any forensic evidence despite being shown the exact position.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

I don't see he did change his mind...it's obvious from that post you see the alerts as evidence of a body in 5 a....which in my opinion is ludicrous.....but you think it's quite reasonable. If CB is a suspect then the present investigation agrees with me and doesn't think a lot of the alerts

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #193 on: August 15, 2020, 10:31:00 AM »
I don't see he did change his mind...it's obvious from that post you see the alerts as evidence of a body in 5 a....which in my opinion is ludicrous.....but you think it's quite reasonable. If CB is a suspect then the present investigation agrees with me and doesn't think a lot of the alerts
When I think of CB I think there could be any number of bodies in 5A.   May not be Madeleine's body but someone else. 
He seems to be full of surprises.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #194 on: August 15, 2020, 11:41:49 PM »
I don't see he did change his mind...it's obvious from that post you see the alerts as evidence of a body in 5 a....which in my opinion is ludicrous.....but you think it's quite reasonable. If CB is a suspect then the present investigation agrees with me and doesn't think a lot of the alerts

So saying the dog alerts could be used as intelligence before the searches and then saying they couldn't afterwards isn't changing his mind?

I don't see the alerts as evidence, I see them as intelligence suggesting a possibility deserving of being considered.
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