How Did JB Commit The Killings

[Holly Goodhead]

Nevill had scorch marks on his back.

Is that the conclusion the two pathologists arrived at?

[The General]

Nevill had scorch marks on his back.

Why use the poker to look for signs of life, instead of just shooting Nevill again, or as many as it took.
Isn't that the reason for the overkill, to ensure no ID?

Was Adam suggesting that the poker was used, and if, why?

[Holly Goodhead]

No, what gives you that idea?  I simply would like you to tell me what forensic evidence makes his scenario impossible.

And I would like you to go through and identify the sources.

My reconstruction is based on the physical evidence with mostly reliable sources:

Blood stains and lack of - soc officers, biologist and senior lecturer in blood serology groups

Casings - soc officers

Distance of shots - ballistics

Trajectories of wounds - pathologist

Wound tracks - pathologist

[Holly Goodhead]

Was Adam suggesting that the poker was used, and if, why?

Did the pathologists conclude the marks to NB's back were burns?

There's a mountain of material in the public domain.  I look for reliable sources.

[Brietta]

And I would like you to go through and identify the sources.

My reconstruction is based on the physical evidence with mostly reliable sources:

Blood stains and lack of - soc officers, biologist and senior lecturer in blood serology groups

Casings - soc officers

Distance of shots - ballistics

Trajectories of wounds - pathologist

Wound tracks - pathologist

The key to it all in my opinion lies in knowing the sequence of events.  That is the order in which the executions were carried out.

There is no physical evidence which does that, is there.  Therefore your version of events is no more valid than anyone else's.

[Holly Goodhead]

The key to it all in my opinion lies in knowing the sequence of events.  That is the order in which the executions were carried out.

There is no physical evidence which does that, is there.  Therefore your version of events is no more valid than anyone else's.

The key to understanding it is a professional shooting reconstruction which should have taken place at the time but its never too late. 

[Holly Goodhead]

Prof Bernard Knight did not think the marks to NB's back were burns and Dr Vanezis wasn't sure.

[barrier]

You have ruled out Adam playing Devils advocate? 

A shooting reconstruction is based on the physical evidence
found at soc.  I will upload a couple of examples?

You're an advocate of Bambers innocence now unless you can get someone of the same mind as Sheila was supposed to be in to be the virtual shooter how do you see it playing out?

[Brietta]

The key to understanding it is a professional shooting reconstruction which should have taken place at the time but its never too late.

I think that 'it is never to late' is a ludicrous statement to make at this remove.  Your man was convicted on the evidence available at the time which was obviously still potent years later on appeal - and so it remains.

[Holly Goodhead]

I think that 'it is never to late' is a ludicrous statement to make at this remove.  Your man was convicted on the evidence available at the time which was obviously still potent years later on appeal - and so it remains.

You thinking something is ludicrous doesn't make it so.

My man is my Pete not JB.

Like all prisoners, no matter how henious the crimes they were convicted of, JB has access to the appeal courts who will grant leave to appeal if he's able to provide fresh evidence.

In this case the UK isn't known for its expertise in ballistics even today let alone 35 years ago unlike say the US where gun crime is routine.

I believe a reconstruction will make a compelling appeal point added to the two reasons for referral which relate to the blood and silencer evidence.

I would point out that there are many additional points other than a reconstruction.

The following gives some idea of a shooting reconstruction

https://youtu.be/R5JDhi4URds

[Nicholas]

This reads like ‘your’ Pete is an ex con Holly?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Was Adam suggesting that the poker was used, and if, why?

To explain the marks presumably,.

[Vertigo Swirl]

And I would like you to go through and identify the sources.

My reconstruction is based on the physical evidence with mostly reliable sources:

Blood stains and lack of - soc officers, biologist and senior lecturer in blood serology groups

Casings - soc officers

Distance of shots - ballistics

Trajectories of wounds - pathologist

Wound tracks - pathologist

Did all these learned experts conclude that JB could not have committed the crime then?

[Holly Goodhead]

This reads like ‘your’ Pete is an ex con Holly?

On the contrary actually.  He's a lawyer without so much as a parking ticket or speeding fine. 

[Nicholas]

On the contrary actually.  He's a lawyer without so much as a parking ticket or speeding fine.