How Did JB Commit The Killings

[The General]

How?

They couldn’t conclude who the perpetrator was...

It could. The 'conclusion' might not be definitive, but it could establish with reasonable confidence pretty quickly which of the two whodunnit.
A more elaborate reconstruction, using the latest techniques, would be more definitive i.e. LIDAR, 3D modelling..

[barrier]

They already know who/where everyone was shot

Forensics proved that, as did where their bodies were

The only thing they can’t prove in a reconstruction is who shot them all

Which is why a reconstruction of Sheila supposedly being the shooter and beating Nevill to a pulp would prove conclusive who didn’t do it...

Then on the balance of probability's it just leave's the one and only JB.

[Angelo222]

They already know who/where everyone was shot

Forensics proved that, as did where their bodies were

The only thing they can’t prove in a reconstruction is who shot them all

Which is why a reconstruction of Sheila supposedly being the shooter and beating Nevill to a pulp would prove conclusive who didn’t do it...

Holly would disagree with you on that but then Holly can't see past the 'Jeremy Bamber is innocent' mantra.

This case was solvable on the simple basis of who could have done it and who couldn't. Who had access to the house and who didn't. Who had the physical presence to fight Nevill Bamber and who didn't. Who had everything to gain and who didn't. And finally, who was and still is a nasty piece of s... and who isn't. QED!!

[APRIL]

Holly would disagree with you on that but then Holly can't see past the 'Jeremy Bamber is innocent' mantra.

This case was solvable on the simple basis of who could have done it and who couldn't. Who had access to the house and who didn't. Who had the physical presence to fight Nevill Bamber and who didn't. Who had everything to gain and who didn't. And finally, who was and still is a nasty piece of s... and who isn't. QED!!

I think in the end, it comes down to just one thing, ie who was it who stood to gain from committing such a crime.

[G-Unit]

Holly would disagree with you on that but then Holly can't see past the 'Jeremy Bamber is innocent' mantra.

This case was solvable on the simple basis of who could have done it and who couldn't. Who had access to the house and who didn't. Who had the physical presence to fight Nevill Bamber and who didn't. Who had everything to gain and who didn't. And finally, who was and still is a nasty piece of s... and who isn't. QED!!

Jeremy Bamber obviously knew how to get into WHF when it was locked, but was he the only one? The pathologist said Sheila Bamber was capable of inflicting Nevill's injuries. Jeremy gained from the murders, but others gained when he was convicted.

[APRIL]

Jeremy Bamber obviously knew how to get into WHF when it was locked, but was he the only one? The pathologist said Sheila Bamber was capable of inflicting Nevill's injuries. Jeremy gained from the murders, but others gained when he was convicted.

I think that comes under the heading of unintended consequences. I can't imagine it crossed Jeremy's mind that by murdering his family he'd be gifting the family inheritance to his relatives.

[Holly Goodhead]

Jeremy Bamber obviously knew how to get into WHF when it was locked, but was he the only one? The pathologist said Sheila Bamber was capable of inflicting Nevill's injuries. Jeremy gained from the murders, but others gained when he was convicted.

JB made clear in his police interviews he knew how to enter WHF through closed windows but didn't know how to exit leaving a window in the closed position.

I can't understand why judge and jury were not taken to WHF to see for themselves what the prosecution was alleging in this regard.

[Holly Goodhead]

JB made clear in his police interviews he knew how to enter WHF through closed windows but didn't know how to exit leaving a window in the closed position.

I can't understand why judge and jury were not taken to WHF to see for themselves what the prosecution was alleging in this regard.

DCI Jones checked all windows and doors at soc on morning of 7th Aug and found all secured from within.

It seems it was the relatives who came up with ideas how JB exited although no one had to demonstrate exactly how.  And more importantly the judge and jury were not taken to WHF to see exactly what the prosecution was alleging.

[Holly Goodhead]

You can read in DS Jones' pocket notebook about how he checked the windows/doors on page 3:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=174.msg1783#msg1783

[Holly Goodhead]

Holly would disagree with you on that but then Holly can't see past the 'Jeremy Bamber is innocent' mantra.

This case was solvable on the simple basis of who could have done it and who couldn't. Who had access to the house and who didn't. Who had the physical presence to fight Nevill Bamber and who didn't. Who had everything to gain and who didn't. And finally, who was and still is a nasty piece of s... and who isn't. QED!!

JB said he was able to enter WHF thru closed windows but he claims he didn't know how to exit leaving any of the windows closed behind.  The prosecution alleged otherwise but never had to demonstrate how this was possible by demonstrating to judge and jury at soc.

According to the pathologist he didn't observe any injuries to any of the victims incl SC that SC was incapable of inflicting.  So how does this rule out SC?

Like most middle class families, when the parents die adult children are beneficiaries to the estate but how does this prove JB was motivated to murder to fast forward his inheritance?  It was a theory put forward by the prosecution. One could just as easily say those who testified against JB stood to gain if he was convicted.

[Holly Goodhead]

You can read in DS Jones' pocket notebook about how he checked the windows/doors on page 3:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=174.msg1783#msg1783

The windows are also set in some detail here which starts at point 261.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

JB made clear in his police interviews he knew how to enter WHF through closed windows but didn't know how to exit leaving a window in the closed position.

I can't understand why judge and jury were not taken to WHF to see for themselves what the prosecution was alleging in this regard.

They didn’t need to

The prosecutor proved Jeremy lied when he made out he didn’t know how to get back out through the window...

They took photographs of the window and did demonstrations of how easy it was to force the latch down

It was all presented to the jury

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Holly would disagree with you on that but then Holly can't see past the 'Jeremy Bamber is innocent' mantra.

This case was solvable on the simple basis of who could have done it and who couldn't. Who had access to the house and who didn't. Who had the physical presence to fight Nevill Bamber and who didn't. Who had everything to gain and who didn't. And finally, who was and still is a nasty piece of s... and who isn't. QED!!

Absolutely!

[Angelo222]

JB said he was able to enter WHF thru closed windows but he claims he didn't know how to exit leaving any of the windows closed behind.  The prosecution alleged otherwise but never had to demonstrate how this was possible by demonstrating to judge and jury at soc.

According to the pathologist he didn't observe any injuries to any of the victims incl SC that SC was incapable of inflicting.  So how does this rule out SC?

Like most middle class families, when the parents die adult children are beneficiaries to the estate but how does this prove JB was motivated to murder to fast forward his inheritance?  It was a theory put forward by the prosecution. One could just as easily say those who testified against JB stood to gain if he was convicted.

Sheila Caffell was incapable of scrapping with Nevill over the kitchen table but then the pathologist never said she wasn't. Only someone reasonably tall and most definitely strong could have fought and overpowered Nevill Bamber. Your grasping at straws does you no favours Holly. Bamber is guilt and you will realise this in time.

[Angelo222]

JB made clear in his police interviews he knew how to enter WHF through closed windows but didn't know how to exit leaving a window in the closed position.

I can't understand why judge and jury were not taken to WHF to see for themselves what the prosecution was alleging in this regard.

Well he would do wouldn't be as he did it again after the murders when he sneaked into the farmhouse for his passport instead of asking Barbara for the keys. As on the previous occasions he left the window with the snib dropped to give the appearance that it was locked and secure.