would you leave your children alone like the mcanns did?? and if not why

[gilet]

So yet again someone denigrating the McCanns fails to back up their claims with any evidence.

Yes that would be you Stephen25000.

Interesting!

[debunker]

So yet again someone denigrating the McCanns fails to back up their claims with any evidence.

Yes that would be you Stephen25000.

Interesting!

IT is a recognised pattern of behaviour for [ censored word]- offer no cites and accuse pros who supply and demand cites as being unreasonable and not allowing them their free speech.

[goatboy]

Apologies if you have been asked this before but have you looked into the Jeremy Bamber case? If so what are your thoughts on this?

[debunker]

Who are you asking?

[goatboy]

Sorry Debunker-I was asking you but forgot to put your name in the post.

[stephen25000]

So yet again someone denigrating the McCanns fails to back up their claims with any evidence.

Yes that would be you Stephen25000.

Interesting!

Let's try making this very simple.

In alcoholic drinks there is a compound called ethanol.

So when people consume alcoholic beverages they imbibe ethanol.

Do you comprehend that ?

Next, and this is pretty simple, look for the witness statements of the waiters from the tapas bar, to see how much vino was being served to these people.

perhaps you are unable to do that, or don't want to face the simple truth....

They placed their need for 'social recreation' over the need for child care of three very young children.

Perhaps you need a drink yourself, or more.

[debunker]

I have followed it in the press with interest.

I believe that he should not have been convicted as 2 members of the jury thought that he was innocent.

IN my view the prosecution failed to prove its case;  our appeal system is grossly unfair and biased against any convicted criminal being released even if the balance of evidence alters in their favor over time.

[debunker]

So yet again someone denigrating the McCanns fails to back up their claims with any evidence.

Yes that would be you Stephen25000.

Interesting!

Let's try making this very simple.



In alcoholic drinks there is a compound called ethanol.

So when people consume alcoholic beverages they imbibe ethanol.



Do you comprehend that ?

Next, and this is pretty simple, look for the witness statements of the waiters from the tapas bar, to see how much vino was being served to these people.



perhaps you are unable to do that, or don't want to face the simple truth....

They placed their need for 'social recreation' over the need for child care of three very young children.

Perhaps you need a drink yourself, or more.

Let's make it even easier. You do not know who drank, who didn't, how much anyone had. Do you know if the people doing the checking even drank anything that night. Do you know how many bottles were charged to the table that night.

THese and other pertinent questions will be ignored by you so that you can keep posting from your favored position- ignorance.

[stephen25000]

Let's make it even easier. You do not know who drank, who didn't, how much anyone had. Do you know if the people doing the checking even drank anything that night. Do you know how many bottles were charged to the table that night.

THese and other pertinent questions will be ignored by you so that you can keep posting from your favored position- ignorance.

The clear unadulterated ignorance is shown on your part.

Your claims of what work you do are just that, claims with no back up and no evidence to support them.

i.e. They are pure hyperbole.

Now get off your R's, do some research into the effects of alcohol/ethanol on the human body, and come back when you have something intelligent to say, rather than your usual banal rubbish.


P.S. You are to being 'neutral' as Wayne Rooney is, in utilizing the finer points of English Grammar when he mouths off the 'f' word.

[debunker]

@Stephen25000

OH look. Evidence rather than idle speculation
But the group's waiter, Jose Baptista, said they were 'very sensible' about their drinking and usually had eight to ten bottles over the course of two or three hours.
A second worker at the tapas bar, who asked not to be named, said: "They didn't drink any more than anyone else. 'They might have been tipsy but they weren't falling over. Everyone handles drink differently."
The group of four families dined together every night and all left their children sleeping in their own apartments, about 40 metres from the tapas bar.
The local police officers who were summoned to the complex after Mrs McCann realised Madeleine was missing said the group "seemed to be normal" and were not drunk, the Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha said.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491693/Portuguese-police-Were-Kate-Gerry-drunk-night-Madeleine-vanished.html

[stephen25000]

@Stephen25000

OH look. Evidence rather than idle speculation
But the group's waiter, Jose Baptista, said they were 'very sensible' about their drinking and usually had eight to ten bottles over the course of two or three hours.
A second worker at the tapas bar, who asked not to be named, said: "They didn't drink any more than anyone else. 'They might have been tipsy but they weren't falling over. Everyone handles drink differently."
The group of four families dined together every night and all left their children sleeping in their own apartments, about 40 metres from the tapas bar.
The local police officers who were summoned to the complex after Mrs McCann realised Madeleine was missing said the group "seemed to be normal" and were not drunk, the Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha said.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491693/Portuguese-police-Were-Kate-Gerry-drunk-night-Madeleine-vanished.html

Is that the best you can do ?

I quoted that on the Amazon Thread quite some time ago.

Like i said.

Do some research.

[Eleanor]

 CarlyMichelle, You have not answered my question.  How did you feel about your parents leaving you and your brother alone in a hotel room while they ate dinner?  You have repeatedly said that your parents did this.

[sadie]

Hello

I have been there and eaten in the outdoor restaurant as did The Mccanns.

It is effectively in the back garden of the apartments, but there is a walled walkway between it and the apartments, therefore a person must go back to the road via the reception to gain access to the apartments.  But have no doubts about it, it is part of the Ocean Club apartments and effectively the back garden.

As I have been shouting for about three years now, the distance from where we sat and ate at the Tapas restaurant,  crow flies, to the patio doors is 50 metres.  To walk to the patio doors is under 80 metres.  In an emergency, a run of a few seconds for a fit person like Kate or Gerry.   The Mccanns sat in the same restaurant as us and just about 2 or 3 metres to the west of where we sat 

Where we and the Mccanns sat is NOT a bar; it is an outside restaurant.  The bar is the ?brick built proper building to the west of the Tapas Restaurant.  Many of the photographs on various websites are incorrectly (?Maliciously?) taken from this bar and they give a totally untrue image of the distance and visibility.

From photographs taken at the time of Madeleine's abduction, it is clear that all the bushes and hedges had just been cut back.  Many of the incorrect photos were taken months later when the foliage had grown and give a totally false impression.  Where we sat we had a clear view of virtually the whole patio door and the steps up.  The Mccanns view would have been almost the same.

Since going there it has sickened me to see the disinformation given out about the view the Mccanns had.  Disinformation and Propaganda are very powerful weapons and they have clearly devastated the truth.

All measurements taken by Google Earth

[gilet]

Hello

I have been there and eaten in the outdoor restaurant as did The Mccanns.

It is effectively in the back garden of the apartments, but there is a walled walkway between it and the apartments, therefore a person must go back to the road via the reception to gain access to the apartments.  But have no doubts about it, it is part of the Ocean Club apartments and effectively the back garden.

As I have been shouting for about three years now, the distance from where we sat and ate at the Tapasrestaurant,  crow flies, to the patio doors is 50 metres.  To walk to the patio doors is under 80 metres.  In an emergency, a run of a few seconds for a fit person like Kate or Gerry.   The Mccanns sat in the same restaurant as us and just about 2 or 3 metres to the west of where we sat 

Where we and the Mccanns sat is NOT a bar; it is an outside restaurant.  The bar is the ?brick built proper building to the west of the Tapas Restaurant.  Many of the photographs on various websites are incorrectly (?Maliciously?) taken from this bar and they give a totally untrue image of the distance and visibility.

From photographs taken at the time of Madeleine's abduction, it is clear that all the bushes and hedges had just been cut back.  Many of the incorrect photos were taken months later when the foliage had grown and give a totally false impression.  Where we sat we had a clear view of virtually the whole patio door and the steps up.  The Mccanns view would have been almost the same.

Since going there it has sickened me to see the disinformation given out about the view the Mccanns had.  Disinformation and Propaganda are very powerful weapons and they have clearly devastated the truth.

All measurements taken by Google Earth

Thank you for that first hand account which effectively puts to bed so many myths and bits of fluff which are so often posted about these matters.

[stephen25000]

So yet again someone denigrating the McCanns fails to back up their claims with any evidence.

Yes that would be you Stephen25000.

Interesting!

Let's try making this very simple.

In alcoholic drinks there is a compound called ethanol.

So when people consume alcoholic beverages they imbibe ethanol.

Do you comprehend that ?

Next, and this is pretty simple, look for the witness statements of the waiters from the tapas bar, to see how much vino was being served to these people.

perhaps you are unable to do that, or don't want to face the simple truth....

They placed their need for 'social recreation' over the need for child care of three very young children.

Perhaps you need a drink yourself, or more.

Even simpler.

You do not know what you are talking about and are bluffing with your pretentious and ludicrous, irrelevant nonsense about ethanol and your patronising nonsense about me needing a drink when anyone reading my posts can see there is no need for that at all.

It is a known fact that the McCanns regret their decision to use those childcare arrangements.

The fact that you cannot get beyond the matter in order to discuss what actually happened that night and are obsessing on a nonsensical claim about it taking up to ten minutes to go from Tapas to Apartment and an even more idiotic idea you have that using the word ethanol makes you look intelligent when all normal people use the word alchohol to describe wine is showing you up now.

Where did I state 10 minutes ?

Someone else said that.

In your rush to defend the Mccanns, common sense goes out the window.

Don't you know even basic biochemistry as to what alcohols are, yes there is more than one of them.

Would you like a lesson on that ?