Wandering off topic.

[Eleanor]

I confine it to my own home but I like everything ordered and systemised!  Eg all food in cupboards, fridge, freezer etc arranged in a certain way.  Everything has a place!  Towels and bedding have to be folded a certain way.  Once a 1/4 I have super cleans where I clean nooks and crannies with cotton buds.  I have an outside vacuum for my car which I spend the best part of a day cleaning.  That's normal isn't it?!

Is it Normal?  Oh My.  My OCD never extends to Cleaning.  My car is a tip and I dust once a year, whether it need it or not.  And sometimes not even then.

[Eleanor]

            I use cotton buds for cleaning too.  Doesn't everyone?

What is a Cotton Bud?

[Holly Goodhead]

I think it's entirely your business how you organise your life, just as it's entirely my business how I organise mine. Problems arise when any of us get upset by/try to impose our views on/interfere in other's preferences.

Yes and you have to accept other family members might not share these idiosyncrasies!  I've always sorted the communal rooms and I always insisted the children from a young age clean and tidy their own rooms however they wished to do them.  My Pete has his home office and I rarely venture in.  It's full of tat like VHS vids, taped music and back copies of magazines if I'm feeling unkind I threaten to order a skip to get it all dumped!   

[Myster]

What is a Cotton Bud?

They're for cleaning your lug'oles out... even though it's so passé these days.

[G-Unit]

What is a Cotton Bud?

In France it's a coton-tige. They were invented as a baby hygene product, but people used them for all sorts of things. The plastic stemmed ones were horrific and are now banned;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50016878

[Myster]

In France it's a coton-tige. They were invented as a baby hygene product, but people used them for all sorts of things. The plastic stemmed ones were horrific and are now banned;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50016878

In Scotland, but elsewhere?   And that's only because celts with no common sense flushed them down the loo.

[Eleanor]

They're for cleaning your lug'oles out... even though it's so passé these days.

Try Hydrogen Peroxide.  That'll blow year ears clean.  No Cotton Buds required.

[Eleanor]

In Scotland, but elsewhere?   And that's only because celts with no common sense flushed them down the loo.

Excuse Me.  I'm a Celt and I never put plastic down my Sceptic Tank.

[Myster]

Try Hydrogen Peroxide.  That'll blow year ears clean.  No Cotton Buds required.

Better still, book a visit to your health centre for an ear syringe, but make sure you don't end up with a sadistic nurse who sets her machine on its highest setting which has a similar effect to firing a nailgun into your eardrum.

[Myster]

Yes and you have to accept other family members might not share these idiosyncrasies!  I've always sorted the communal rooms and I always insisted the children from a young age clean and tidy their own rooms however they wished to do them.  My Pete has his home office and I rarely venture in.  It's full of tat like VHS vids, taped music and back copies of magazines if I'm feeling unkind I threaten to order a skip to get it all dumped!

You didn't mention the type of magazines... Fishing, Computer, Law or Dirty?

[Holly Goodhead]

You didn't mention the type of magazines... Fishing, Computer, Law or Dirty?

Navy News, despite never having been in the navy, but there's probably mucky ones in there too!   

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I assume you think there's no need for psychiatrists and psychologists then? Are those of average intelligence able to replace any other medical professionals in your opinion? It would save the NHS a fortune in wages if so.

You’re just being facetious

Psychiatrists are TRAINED in medicine; they’re TRAINED to diagnose and treat patients, with various therapies including prescribing medication. You know that, so don’t talk nonsense. I actually dated a psychiatrist for six months when I was 19 and obviously met his friends who were mainly in medicine too. We occasionally had discussions about psychiatry and he was always amazed at how my theories were usually spot on; not so much with mental illnesses but psychology and “reading” people.

So yes, people without going to medical school and becoming a qualified psychiatrist can indeed detect when there’s something “amiss” with someone. They can’t be certain, of course, but most people can spot disturbed people, I believe.

I’ve met psychopaths and one trait they ALL share is their gaze: their eyes remind me of a shark’s. They’re kind of dead, yet bore through you. Sometimes it’s more subtle, and not everyone picks up on it, but their eyes always have a certain look. It’s hard to see in photographs, but you’d recognise it if you met one.

[mrswah]

You’re just being facetious

Psychiatrists are TRAINED in medicine; they’re TRAINED to diagnose and treat patients, with various therapies including prescribing medication. You know that, so don’t talk nonsense. I actually dated a psychiatrist for six months when I was 19 and obviously met his friends who were mainly in medicine too. We occasionally had discussions about psychiatry and he was always amazed at how my theories were usually spot on; not so much with mental illnesses but psychology and “reading” people.

So yes, people without going to medical school and becoming a qualified psychiatrist can indeed detect when there’s something “amiss” with someone. They can’t be certain, of course, but most people can spot disturbed people, I believe.

I’ve met psychopaths and one trait they ALL share is their gaze: their eyes remind me of a shark’s. They’re kind of dead, yet bore through you. Sometimes it’s more subtle, and not everyone picks up on it, but their eyes always have a certain look. It’s hard to see in photographs, but you’d recognise it if you met one.

However psychiatrists diagnose someone with psychopathy, I'd  bet you that looking at their eyes plays no part whatsoever!

[Vertigo Swirl]

However psychiatrists diagnose someone with psychopathy, I'd  bet you that looking at their eyes plays no part whatsoever!

There overall demeanour and behaviour whilst being interviewed probsbly would, and eyes are a window into the soul (if there is one).  These are not exact sciences after all.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

No, I don't.   As far as I'm aware, I'm of at least average intelligence, and I have no idea whether or not JB is a psychopath. 

I agree with you re Beethoven, but not everyone likes his music, by the way!

How do you mean “as far as you’re aware” you’re of at least average intelligence? Is that you making assumptions or have you taken an IQ test?  I’ve taken one, at Mensa, when I was invited to after passing a Mensa test I saw advertised. They wrote back saying I’d scored 142 and so I went to be tested — I thought it might be fun being a Mensa member🧐

In the event, the test was strictly monitored and timed (there were about a dozen people taking it), and the examiner was somewhat intimidating which made my mind go blank. I knew I’d failed when I got to the spatial tests (my weak point) and started guessing as that darned clock ticked away. It wasn’t too bad, though, they wrote to me and said I’d scored 136 (you need 140 to pass) and said I could resit it after a year, but I never bothered...my daughter took the test too, (months after I did) and she also scored high (138), so I suspect intelligence may be inherited.

I wonder what Jeremy Bamber’s is?

I have always though him dim for a psychopath...

Oh, and I’m not keen on Beethoven, either...but you can’t deny he was a genius. There’s plenty of artists who create incredible work, but that doesn’t mean it appeals to each and every person !