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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #150 on: May 11, 2020, 10:45:04 PM »
I've got chronic OCD if anyone is interested.  No?

How does it manifest?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #151 on: May 11, 2020, 10:47:03 PM »
But it's not our qualifications we rely on, it's the qualifications of the psychiatrist that classified Bamber as a psychopath pre-trial.

Most of the 'evidence' quoted on here has been thought up by posters. I have seen nothing originating from this  psychologist, whose name, qualifications and experience no-one seems able to supply.

For some reason I'm reminded of the Beattie BT advert;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC_-r-J69qA
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #152 on: May 11, 2020, 10:57:15 PM »
Bar Council and media comment.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #153 on: May 11, 2020, 10:57:51 PM »
Most of the 'evidence' quoted on here has been thought up by posters. I have seen nothing originating from this  psychologist, whose name, qualifications and experience no-one seems able to supply.

For some reason I'm reminded of the Beattie BT advert;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC_-r-J69qA
And yet you seem quite tolerant of the idea (dreamt up by someone who doesn’t have an ology to the best of my knowledge) that Sheila suffered from some sort of attachment disorder.  Why is that, out of interest?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #154 on: May 11, 2020, 11:02:50 PM »
Bar Council and media comment.

Why would self-employed barristers (time is money) waste time effectively gossiping about a historic case with a liitle known book author?  To what end?  Bar Council rules seem to rule it out?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #155 on: May 12, 2020, 11:30:24 AM »
Anyway at least none of us are psychopaths!
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline G-Unit

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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #157 on: May 12, 2020, 11:41:38 AM »
Anyway at least none of us are psychopaths!

I wouldn't be too sure about that.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #158 on: May 12, 2020, 10:11:01 PM »
Perhaps those who offer endless examples of 'evidence' of Jeremy Bamber's psychopathy should acknowledge their lack of qualifications also.

One doesn’t need to be a trained musician to know Beethoven composed beautiful music, Gunit.

In just the same way they don’t need to be trained to know when someone isn’t a musician.

Anyone of average intelligence can see that Jeremy Bamber is a psychopath...don’t you agree? 😌
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #159 on: May 12, 2020, 10:25:25 PM »
One doesn’t need to be a trained musician to know Beethoven composed beautiful music, Gunit.

In just the same way they don’t need to be trained to know when someone isn’t a musician.

Anyone of average intelligence can see that Jeremy Bamber is a psychopath...don’t you agree? 😌

I assume you think there's no need for psychiatrists and psychologists then? Are those of average intelligence able to replace any other medical professionals in your opinion? It would save the NHS a fortune in wages if so.
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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #160 on: May 12, 2020, 10:37:47 PM »
I assume you think there's no need for psychiatrists and psychologists then? Are those of average intelligence able to replace any other medical professionals in your opinion? It would save the NHS a fortune in wages if so.

Well actually, it's you who disputes what the psychiatrist said about Jeremy pre-trial.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #161 on: May 12, 2020, 11:05:51 PM »
I assume you think there's no need for psychiatrists and psychologists then? Are those of average intelligence able to replace any other medical professionals in your opinion? It would save the NHS a fortune in wages if so.
Psychiatrists and psychologists don’t exist solely to diagnose psychopaths.  It is possible for a perceptive and well educated lay person to id someone with personality disorders imo.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #162 on: May 12, 2020, 11:41:51 PM »
Psychiatrists and psychologists don’t exist solely to diagnose psychopaths.  It is possible for a perceptive and well educated lay person to id someone with personality disorders imo.

Average intelligence plus perceptive and well educated? So many generalisations and assumptions. Jasper Carrott was good at it;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYYo49R_ZS0

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #163 on: May 13, 2020, 12:09:04 AM »
Average intelligence plus perceptive and well educated? So many generalisations and assumptions. Jasper Carrott was good at it;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYYo49R_ZS0
I didn’t mention average intelligence, thst was someone else.  If you don’t think it is possible for a layperson who is perceptive and well-educated to tell if someone msy have a personality disorder either through personal experience of them or through researching their behaviour and actions then perhaps you could explain why not.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #164 on: May 13, 2020, 01:35:50 AM »
I didn’t mention average intelligence, thst was someone else.  If you don’t think it is possible for a layperson who is perceptive and well-educated to tell if someone msy have a personality disorder either through personal experience of them or through researching their behaviour and actions then perhaps you could explain why not.

How do you recognise a perceptive person, and what is, in your opinion, a well-educated person? In my opinion perceptiveness is something others decide we have, not us. It's also a complicated question as to what being well-educated means.
https://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/12/04/defining-educated-person

Until you can define what you mean by those words you can't use them as a benchmark.
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