Why would Julie do this? Say this?

[Robittybob1]

The phone call he makes to Julie from a pay phone ?

Who said there was a phone call?  Does Jeremy Bamber admit to that?

[Aunt Agatha]

You’ve had 35 years to ask him questions AA

Whats your point Nicholas???

I won't be asking the questions.

Instead of attacking just read the damn post and take it as it's meant to be.

If you dont want to ask him a question directly then plod on.  Don't ruin it for everyone else, OK Nicholas.

[Robittybob1]

This by Scott Lomax is interesting:

“This was not the first occasion on which Sheila had 'gone crazy'. The reference to the gun, however, was a cause for concern and so Bamber decided to telephone the police as a precaution. He did not wish to dial 999 in case it was not an emergency situation; the police had never been called in the past and the arrival of vehicles with flashing lights and sirens could make what was perhaps a manageable situation, a dangerous one. Instead he telephoned Chelmsford Police Station and asked them to meet him at White House Farm.

After telephoning the police, he contacted his girlfriend, Julie Mugford, as he was unsure as to whether or not he had taken the correct action. He was concerned that he may cause embarrassment if the police arrived to find that no threat had been posed. After the call had ended, he drove from his cottage in Goldhanger to White House Farm, which is located in the neighbouring village of Tolleshunt D'Arcy.

Bamber arrived at the farmhouse, shortly after the police, to find that the upstairs lights were switched on, as was the light in the kitchen. Armed police officers arrived at the scene at around 05:30. Time was spent deciding upon how the situation should be best tackled, with a map having been drawn of the layout of the building. Details relating to the telephone call, Sheila's state of mind, and the weapons within the house, were discussed in order to try and fully understand the situation.

Finally, at 07:30, the police battered down the door to gain access to the building. Armed officers stormed in, but there was no longer any danger. A terrible scene of carnage met their eyes.
(From Trial & Error: The case of Jeremy Bamber (2003)
http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan042.htm

"After telephoning the police, he contacted his girlfriend, Julie Mugford, as he was unsure as to whether or not he had taken the correct action. He was concerned that he may cause embarrassment if the police arrived to find that no threat had been posed. After the call had ended, he drove from his cottage in Goldhanger to White House Farm, which is located in the neighbouring village of Tolleshunt D'Arcy."   

That paragraph makes it sound as if Bamber is admitting to making this call.  At this stage, as the story goes, he is not aware of any deaths.

[Aunt Agatha]

"After telephoning the police, he contacted his girlfriend, Julie Mugford, as he was unsure as to whether or not he had taken the correct action. He was concerned that he may cause embarrassment if the police arrived to find that no threat had been posed. After the call had ended, he drove from his cottage in Goldhanger to White House Farm, which is located in the neighbouring village of Tolleshunt D'Arcy."   

That paragraph makes it sound as if Bamber is admitting to making this call.  At this stage, as the story goes, he is not aware of any deaths.

I'd agree

[Robittybob1]

I'd agree

OK but how many other phone calls did he make to Jullie?  Someone mentioned a call made from a payphone.

[Aunt Agatha]

OK but how many other phone calls did he make to Jullie?  Someone mentioned a call made from a payphone.

Yes, we need clarity on this

[Caroline]

OK but how many other phone calls did he make to Jullie?  Someone mentioned a call made from a payphone.

Around 10pm Bamber called Julie for around 17mins post murders - known as the 'tonight's the night' call.
Called Julie sometime between 03:10 and 03:25 - the 'somethings wrong at the farm' call
Called Julie again at around 05:45 - told her not to go to work, police would pick her up and bring her to Goldhanger.

[Robittybob1]

In the appeal notes, there is mention of another phone call.

"31. Armed officers from the Essex Police Tactical Firearms Unit arrived at the farm at about 5
a.m. There was further conversation with the appellant. At about 5.30 a.m. he said to PS
Adams, “What if anything has happened in there, they are all the family I’ve got”. He
became visibly upset and asked to telephone his girlfriend, Julie Mugford, who was later
driven to Essex from London. "

That doesn't say he actually made a call, just that he asked to make a call.

Around 10pm Bamber called Julie for around 17mins post murders - known as the 'tonight's the night' call.
Called Julie sometime between 03:10 and 03:25 - the 'somethings wrong at the farm' call
Called Julie again at around 05:45 - told her not to go to work, police would pick her up and bring her to Goldhanger.

that second call seems to be the one referred to in the Appeal notes  https://murderpedia.org/male.B/images/bamber_jeremy/20011745.pdf  page 6.

How long would it take to drive from her home to White House Farm? 

[Caroline]

In the appeal notes, there is mention of another phone call.

"31. Armed officers from the Essex Police Tactical Firearms Unit arrived at the farm at about 5
a.m. There was further conversation with the appellant. At about 5.30 a.m. he said to PS
Adams, “What if anything has happened in there, they are all the family I’ve got”. He
became visibly upset and asked to telephone his girlfriend, Julie Mugford, who was later
driven to Essex from London. "

That doesn't say he actually made a call, just that he asked to make a call.
that second call seems to be the one referred to in the Appeal notes  https://murderpedia.org/male.B/images/bamber_jeremy/20011745.pdf  page 6.

How long would it take to drive from her home to White House Farm?

Whether it says or not it states it on Murderpedia - he made the call from a call box.

I have no idea how long it would take, she was picked up by a police officer later that morning.

[Robittybob1]

Whether it says or not it states it on Murderpedia - he made the call from a call box.

I have no idea how long it would take, she was picked up by a police officer later that morning.

If we know where she was picked up from, and we know where White House Farm is we could estimate the travel time between them.
Where was she picked up from?  It says "Julie Mugford, who was later driven to Essex from London".  So how long would that journey take?

[APRIL]

If we know where she was picked up from, and we know where White House Farm is we could estimate the travel time between them.
Where was she picked up from?  It says "Julie Mugford, who was later driven to Essex from London".  So how long would that journey take?

1.50-2 hours?

[Nicholas]

The last 5.30 a.m. call was from the only telephone kiosk in the centre of Tolleshunt D'Arcy village. He was accompanied there by PC Robert Lay, but only had a 10 pence coin to make the call.  Lay couldn't help out because he arrived without any cash himself.  Most likely this call box...

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5382195

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5382204

What does PC Robert Lay’s witness statement say about this phone call exactly?

Did he actually hear Bamber on the payphone to Julie ?

Why would Bamber leave the farmhouse at all to phone Julie and also tell her not to go to work?

She must have been exhausted by the time she was picked up by police because she’d hardly had any sleep having been woken by Bamber 3 times in the night

[Aunt Agatha]

Prove it

You prove me wrong!

[Aunt Agatha]

Is this what Bamber told you or have you just made it up?

Why don’t you ask him yourself?

[Nicholas]

Why don’t you ask him yourself?

You stated

I did state I could be wrong...it was long ago...however I do recall going through the actions outside of the house whilst he was outside.

i think he was in the car when he heard about the first two by an officer.

He was then officially told that the whole family had died.

that is how I recall our chat, I'm sure I've stated that before somewhere. 

I asked you

Is this what Bamber told you or have you just made it up?

It’s you who’s claimed, ’I think he was in the car when he heard about the first two by an officer’ not Bamber

What’s the official version AA ?