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Offline Caroline

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #105 on: May 22, 2020, 12:58:59 PM »
https://murderpedia.org/male.B/images/bamber_jeremy/20011745.pdf page 21
"134. At one point during the interviews the appellant said that following the call from his father
he had telephoned Julie Mugford before the police. It was pointed out to him that in his
earlier witness statements he had said he rang the police immediately upon receipt of his
father’s call and only after calling the police had he rung Miss Mugford. He responded that
he may be confused about the sequence of telephone calls. He could not explain why having
received the call from his father he had not immediately telephoned 999. "

In my mini-theory Jeremy had the call from his father before ringing the police and his girlfriend, and he rang Julie first then the police.   He admitted being confused but did not explain which version was the correct one.

It is possible the call from his father was as early as 10:00 PM the day before the murders.

That's not possible. Why don't you read up on the case - and I  don't mean murderpedia.

Offline Aunt Agatha

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #106 on: May 22, 2020, 01:43:53 PM »
Of course if the phone call never happened ,there are no words to have a play on.


Let her/him  speak.  Don't keep interrupting.

Sorry, this doesn't apply directly to you, more so others who won't allow a theory to move forward, which prohibits a true and full debate.


Offline Caroline

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #107 on: May 22, 2020, 01:48:43 PM »

Let her/him  speak.  Don't keep interrupting.

Sorry, this doesn't apply directly to you, more so others who won't allow a theory to move forward, which prohibits a true and full debate.

The theory can't move forward because the poster admits to know nothing about the case, instead of reading up on it, he/she is expecting the rest of us to do the research for them. I'm bowing out of  this convo - so carry on.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #108 on: May 22, 2020, 01:58:01 PM »

Let her/him  speak.  Don't keep interrupting.

Sorry, this doesn't apply directly to you, more so others who won't allow a theory to move forward, which prohibits a true and full debate.

Do you think Bamber drugged and assaulted Sarah AA ?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11533.0
« Last Edit: May 22, 2020, 02:00:42 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #109 on: May 22, 2020, 02:04:51 PM »
Do you think Bamber drugged and assaulted Sarah AA ?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11533.0

He most definitely lied to Julie about not having had ‘intercourse’ with her

Did he ever tell you about Sarah when you were in a relationship with him ?

When did this occur do you know ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #110 on: May 22, 2020, 02:11:51 PM »

Let her/him  speak.  Don't keep interrupting.

Sorry, this doesn't apply directly to you, more so others who won't allow a theory to move forward, which prohibits a true and full debate.

Why do you think Sarah didn’t go to the police

She told detectives in 1985 that she had suddenly found herself in Jeremy’s bedroom with him, ‘on top of me having intercourse’.

The following day, the girl wondered whether she had been drugged. Feeling ‘shocked, angry and abused’ after hearing that Jeremy had told Julie about the episode, she called at the cottage while Jeremy was working
.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=charles+marsden+essex&source=bl&ots=jQISI3Diw_&sig=ACfU3U1i336DTUwUTlMThBe2M3Xntg_NJA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwil_JK6psXpAhW-QhUIHRPOAwkQ6AEwBHoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=charles%20marsden%20essex&f=false

or did she ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #111 on: May 22, 2020, 04:34:02 PM »
That's not possible. Why don't you read up on the case - and I  don't mean murderpedia.
What it is not possible that Jeremy got a call from his dad around 10:00 PM the night before the murders.  Nothing impossible about that.
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Offline APRIL

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #112 on: May 22, 2020, 04:38:02 PM »
What it is not possible that Jeremy got a call from his dad around 10:00 PM the night before the murders.  Nothing impossible about that.


And he then waits 5+ hours before calling police? Mmmm?

Offline Caroline

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #113 on: May 22, 2020, 04:42:47 PM »
What it is not possible that Jeremy got a call from his dad around 10:00 PM the night before the murders.  Nothing impossible about that.

Because Neville he was still working in the field, bringing in the last trailer of rape seed.

June was talking to her sister at that time

Bamber was on the phone to Julie

You scenario still has Bamber being a liar - but it didn't happen so .....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #114 on: May 22, 2020, 05:09:49 PM »

And he then waits 5+ hours before calling police? Mmmm?
Remember I proposed that the late call around 3:20 AM wasn't his father, but just someone Jeremy thought was his father.  The caller never identified himself.
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Offline APRIL

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #115 on: May 22, 2020, 05:19:33 PM »
Remember I proposed that the late call around 3:20 AM wasn't his father, but just someone Jeremy thought was his father.  The caller never identified himself.


Then it would have had to be someone close enough to Nevill to be able to mimic his voice well enough to fool Jeremy, who was convinced because he told police his father had called. I suspect that would rule Julie out..........that's assuming she knew which end of a gun bullets were ejected from.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #116 on: May 22, 2020, 05:31:01 PM »

Then it would have had to be someone close enough to Nevill to be able to mimic his voice well enough to fool Jeremy, who was convinced because he told police his father had called. I suspect that would rule Julie out..........that's assuming she knew which end of a gun bullets were ejected from.

That's right, the call was to mimic Jeremy's father, it didn't have to come from WHF. Was Jeremy going to go around there when there was possibly someone with a gun waiting for him to turn up?
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Offline Caroline

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #117 on: May 22, 2020, 07:05:50 PM »
That's right, the call was to mimic Jeremy's father, it didn't have to come from WHF. Was Jeremy going to go around there when there was possibly someone with a gun waiting for him to turn up?

Sorry - and the point of this would be what?

Offline APRIL

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #118 on: May 22, 2020, 07:12:23 PM »
That's right, the call was to mimic Jeremy's father, it didn't have to come from WHF. Was Jeremy going to go around there when there was possibly someone with a gun waiting for him to turn up?


In which case -whatever time the alleged call happened- surely all he had to do was dial 999. He had no need to put himself in danger.

Offline The General

Re: Why would Julie do this? Say this?
« Reply #119 on: May 22, 2020, 07:14:16 PM »
That's right, the call was to mimic Jeremy's father, it didn't have to come from WHF. Was Jeremy going to go around there when there was possibly someone with a gun waiting for him to turn up?
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