What Percentage Of Jeremy Bamber’s Supporters Are Women?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I’ve read a few interesting articles on women attracted to murderers in prison, which I’ve always found baffling. Why would any woman be attracted to a murderer, or/and a prisoner?

I’ve noticed the majority of Bamber’s supporters are women, and whilst some claim they only feel sorry for him (which doesn’t wash...), or some say they believe he’s innocent (which still doesn’t wash...how much proof do they need FGS?) I suspect 99% of his supporters have a warped infatuation with him.

I’ll post some links to this weird, unhealthy phenomenon

Meanwhile, does anyone know the rough percentage of his female followers?

And how many in near total he’s had over the last 35 years?

First link:   https://archive.attn.com/stories/6268/why-women-fall-in-love-prison-inmates

Second link:   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/13/gender.uk

Third link:  https://www.longdom.org/open-access/women-attracted-to-incarcerated-men-a-case-study-2573-4598-1000139.pdf

[Angelo222]

I’ve read a few interesting articles on women attracted to murderers in prison, which I’ve always found baffling. Why would any woman be attracted to a murderer, or/and a prisoner?

I’ve noticed the majority of Bamber’s supporters are women, and whilst some claim they only feel sorry for him (which doesn’t wash...), or some say they believe he’s innocent (which still doesn’t wash...how much proof do they need FGS?) I suspect 99% of his supporters have a warped infatuation with him.

I’ll post some links to this weird, unhealthy phenomenon

Meanwhile, does anyone know the rough percentage of his female followers?

And how many in near total he’s had over the last 35 years?

First link:   https://archive.attn.com/stories/6268/why-women-fall-in-love-prison-inmates

It's the bad boy syndrome. Interestingly, these relationships never last once the offender is released. Karen Torley and former death row Scot Kenny Richie being such an example. Torley campaigned for Richie for 12 years before eventually getting married to him. She later claimed that he left her in debt after proposing to another woman while he was still married to Torley. 

The list of sad women who have been associated with Richie is growing.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/780181/ex-death-row-inmate-kenny-richey-to-wed-net-lover-hes-never-met-after-getting-engaged-for-fifth-time/.

Latest
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/daughter-freed-death-row-scot-22046402

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It's the bad boy syndrome.

I at first thought it could be along those lines, Angelo, but it goes way beyond that, sadly...

[Nicholas]

Torley campaigned for Richie for 12 years before eventually getting married to him. She later claimed that he left her in debt after proposing to another woman while he was still married to Torley.

Don’t agree with Amnesty's comments on the case nor Clive Stafford Smiths


‘Amnesty International and Reprieve are urging the Ohio state authorities to allow Kenny Richey the opportunity to have this fresh evidence heard. This may mean that his case is re-tried, that he is accorded a new evidentiary hearing or a re-sentencing hearing is allowed.
The human rights organisations are also pressing the UK government to support Mr Richey's case in line with the government's policy of opposing the death penalty in all instances.
Amnesty International UK Director Kate Allen said:
'We don't believe that anyone should be sent to the living hell of death row but Kenny Richey's seventeen-year ordeal comes after a flawed trial and serious concerns about the Ohio justice system.'Quite simply, Kenny's case is one of the most compelling cases of apparent innocence that human rights campaigners https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/usa-kenny-richey-case-fresh-call-justice-scottish-man-reaches-17-years-death-row have ever come across.'


‘ British human rights campaigners were jubilant over his release. Clive Stafford Smith, legal director of the legal charity Reprieve and a leading campaigner against the US death penalty, said: "After Kenny's heart scare, it is a tremendous relief to see him finally walk free. This is a great day for him and his family."
Stafford Smith, a US-qualified lawyer who first championed Richey's claims that he was wrongly convicted, said his former client's plea bargain did not mean Richey accepted blame for the girl's death.
His deal allowed Ohio's state prosecutors - who have repeatedly refused to accept that Richey was wrongly convicted - to save face and avoid a protracted retrial for the girl's murder.
Although a federal appeal court overturned his conviction last August, leading to judges ordering a retrial, the prosecution had insisted he started the fire which killed Cynthia in a drunken rage following a row with her mother, his former girlfriend.
By pleading "no contest" to much reduced charges of endangering Cynthia's life by failing to honour a promise to babysit her - thus leaving her unprotected when the fire began - as well as an unrelated burglary charge, he had been cleared of the much more serious death row murder conviction.
The precise charges were designed to equal the 21 years he has served, allowing him to walk free.
"There should be no mistake that this deal is nothing short of complete vindication for Kenny," Stafford Smith said yesterday.
"The prosecutors no longer accuse him of murder or having anything to do with starting the fire. Instead, they have charged him with, essentially, failing to babysit.
"For all intents and purposes, he will walk free from jail today completely exonerated - now he must work to get his life back together."
The deal means Richey has no rights to claim compensation from the state of Ohio, leaving him effectively penniless. Although he has signed an exclusive deal with a Sunday newspaper, he has no job in the UK and his supporters believe he faces a difficult and uncertain future.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/jan/07/ukcrime.usa

[Nicholas]

I’ve read a few interesting articles on women attracted to murderers in prison, which I’ve always found baffling. Why would any woman be attracted to a murderer, or/and a prisoner?

I’ve noticed the majority of Bamber’s supporters are women, and whilst some claim they only feel sorry for him (which doesn’t wash...), or some say they believe he’s innocent (which still doesn’t wash...how much proof do they need FGS?) I suspect 99% of his supporters have a warped infatuation with him.

I’ll post some links to this weird, unhealthy phenomenon

Meanwhile, does anyone know the rough percentage of his female followers?

And how many in near total he’s had over the last 35 years?

First link:   https://archive.attn.com/stories/6268/why-women-fall-in-love-prison-inmates

Second link:   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/13/gender.uk

Third link:  https://www.longdom.org/open-access/women-attracted-to-incarcerated-men-a-case-study-2573-4598-1000139.pdf

There are several existing threads on this  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=686.0

[Nicholas]

It's the bad boy syndrome.

He's a thug Joanne. In my opinion he should never have been released in the first place by the US authorities. Karen Torley should be ashamed of herself but then again that Glasgow troll isn't much better.

Do you suspect innocence fraud ?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

There are several existing threads on this  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=686.0

Thank you, Nicholas

I’ve just had a quick look

Seems these women never learn...

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I at first thought it could be along those lines, Angelo, but it goes way beyond that, sadly...

I’m not in any way comparing the women who support Jeremy Bamber to the two women in this programme, who both discovered their husbands were paedophiles. There’s never been any suggestion at all that JB was that way inclined, and Im certainly not inferring he was/is. The only reason I’m posting the link to this documentary is that the the older wife in the second half of the programme displays the exact denials that the supporters of JB do who is a convicted mass murderer.

Her psyche is one of total denial, despite him being imprisoned, and she absolutely refuses to believe he was capable. There is a twist at the end, though...it’s worth watching if you’ve a spare 20 minutes and gives immense insight into how some women can brainwash themselves.

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/married-to-a-paedophile?cntsrc=social_share_ios_married_to_a_paedophile

[Caroline]

I’m not in any way comparing the women who support Jeremy Bamber to the two women in this programme, who both discovered their husbands were paedophiles. There’s never been any suggestion at all that JB was that way inclined, and Im certainly not inferring he was/is. The only reason I’m posting the link to this documentary is that the the older wife in the second half of the programme displays the exact denials that the supporters of JB do who is a convicted mass murderer.

Her psyche is one of total denial, despite him being imprisoned, and she absolutely refuses to believe he was capable. There is a twist at the end, though...it’s worth watching if you’ve a spare 20 minutes and gives immense insight into how some women can brainwash themselves.

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/married-to-a-paedophile?cntsrc=social_share_ios_married_to_a_paedophile

Did these woment find out their husbands were paedophiles after they married them?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Did these woment find out their husbands were paedophiles after they married them?

Yes, of course

The first woman thought her husband was normal; they had a nice house, children etc...he had a job teaching...

After the police arrested him she got rid of him, obviously

The second woman who is older clearly didn’t want to believe it and actually behaved like a lovesick teenager when she was collecting him from prison

I kind of felt sorry for her in a way...

Her mentality reminds me of these women who think JB is innocent.

[Caroline]

Yes, of course

The first woman thought her husband was normal; they had a nice house, children etc...he had a job teaching...

After the police arrested him she got rid of him, obviously

The second woman who is older clearly didn’t want to believe it and actually behaved like a lovesick teenager when she was collecting him from prison

I kind of felt sorry for her in a way...

Her mentality reminds me of these women who think JB is innocent.

I can understand her not wanting to believe that he was a paedo, it makes their whole life together a lie and a waste and no one wants to believe they have been that close to someone like that.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I can understand her not wanting to believe that he was a paedo, it makes their whole life together a lie and a waste and no one wants to believe they have been that close to someone like that.

Yes, I can understand how she desperately tried to eradicate what he’d done out of her mind: it’s self-preservation, I guess, and accepting what he secretly was throughout their long marriage must have made her feel dirty and tainted too, so she refused to accept what he was. And despite what he’d done they’d been married for about 40 years? Her whole world would’ve imploded by accepting what he was.

The difference, though, is that she had been his wife for all those years so of course she found it traumatic to process; whereas women who actively seek out men they’ve never met, who are in prison for the most horrendously evil crimes must have something wrong with them.

[The General]

I can understand her not wanting to believe that he was a paedo, it makes their whole life together a lie and a waste and no one wants to believe they have been that close to someone like that.

Marriages / partnerships are predicated on trust, which helps to sustain a stable, comfortable domestic arrangement, because however much we like to believe we 'know' the other person or understand them, we don't. So we rely on trust to fill the gaps in that knowledge. When that trust is breached by one or the other, then the injured party has the true nature of the significant other revealed to them - betrayal - the reaction to that can be quite catastrophic, essentially everything falls apart; past, present and also future and it casts that person back to the beginning of the evolution of the relationship.
Occasionally the betrayed partner will compartmentalise that betrayal, or mitigate it, as a defence mechanism for the psyche (or ego, if we're referencing Jung's theory of the ego being largely responsible for feelings of identity and continuity), and it's not a conscious decision, to the point where the denial is seemingly apparent to onlookers, but an incongruent concept to the them - they don't see it.

[APRIL]

Marriages / partnerships are predicated on trust, which helps to sustain a stable, comfortable domestic arrangement, because however much we like to believe we 'know' the other person or understand them, we don't. So we rely on trust to fill the gaps in that knowledge. When that trust is breached by one or the other, then the injured party has the true nature of the significant other revealed to them - betrayal - the reaction to that can be quite catastrophic, essentially everything falls apart; past, present and also future and it casts that person back to the beginning of the evolution of the relationship.
Occasionally the betrayed partner will compartmentalise that betrayal, or mitigate it, as a defence mechanism for the psyche (or ego, if we're referencing Jung's theory of the ego being largely responsible for feelings of identity and continuity), and it's not a conscious decision, to the point where the denial is seemingly apparent to onlookers, but an incongruent concept to the them - they don't see it.

Succinctly and eloquently put, General.

[Holly Goodhead]

Marriages / partnerships are predicated on trust, which helps to sustain a stable, comfortable domestic arrangement, because however much we like to believe we 'know' the other person or understand them, we don't. So we rely on trust to fill the gaps in that knowledge. When that trust is breached by one or the other, then the injured party has the true nature of the significant other revealed to them - betrayal - the reaction to that can be quite catastrophic, essentially everything falls apart; past, present and also future and it casts that person back to the beginning of the evolution of the relationship.
Occasionally the betrayed partner will compartmentalise that betrayal, or mitigate it, as a defence mechanism for the psyche (or ego, if we're referencing Jung's theory of the ego being largely responsible for feelings of identity and continuity), and it's not a conscious decision, to the point where the denial is seemingly apparent to onlookers, but an incongruent concept to the them - they don't see it.

Be careful!  You might get a queue forming for general therapy!