The Devil's Children. What was the need for this?

[Robittybob1]

They ground up Collin Caffell's collection of milk teeth from his kids to run DNA tests.  I'm looking forward to seeing if that has assisted in any way.  Surely it only supports the previous finding that the blood in the silencer was not Sheila's.

It always worried me why they were termed "the Devil's children"  OK Collin and Sheila weren't married, but surely that wasn't the only reason.

Do we have any experts here on the inheritance of blood groupings?

[Vertigo Swirl]

They ground up Collin Caffell's collection of milk teeth from his kids to run DNA tests.  I'm looking forward to seeing if that has assisted in any way.  Surely it only supports the previous finding that the blood in the silencer was not Sheila's.

It always worried me why they were termed "the Devil's children"  OK Collin and Sheila weren't married, but surely that wasn't the only reason.

Do we have any experts here on the inheritance of blood groupings?

Colin and Sheila weren’t married?  That’s news to me.

[Robittybob1]

Colin and Sheila weren’t married?  That’s news to me.

OK I seen reports like where June tries to get them officially married by offering them a nice house if they agreed to marry.  OK I'm fairly new to this case as it is "British".  We've had a similar case in NZ to work through.

[Robittybob1]

Colin and Sheila weren’t married?  That’s news to me.

Yet this article says they were married and then divorced.
"After finding out they were expecting a child, Sheila and Colin got married, when she was just 20 years old.

Sadly the couple lost the baby when Sheila was six months pregnant.

The couple then suffered one more miscarriage before Sheila became pregnant with twins.

Daniel and Nicholas were born in June 1979.

After the boys were born Sheila lived off welfare and low-paid jobs such as cleaning and waitressing.


Colin Caffell, ex-husband of Sheila Caffell (Image: ITV)
Sheila and Colin's marriage soon broke down, with reports that he had had an affair and they divorced.

After the divorce the former model found a new friendship group where she was given the nickname 'Bambi' and became involved in partying, drugs and older men.

She moved into a flay in Maida Vale, where she lived at the time of the murders.

Relationship with the Bambers
It was well known that Sheila did not have the best relationship with her adoptive mother June.

When they made her have an abortion they became more divided.

June disapproved of some of Sheila's behaviour, including a time where she caught her sunbathing naked in a field with Colin.

It is reported that after that June started calling Sheila "the devil's child"" https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/sad-life-white-house-farms-3810392

[Robittybob1]

That same article goes further:
"Struggles with mental health
In her 28 years, Sheila had many struggles with her mental health ranging from violent outbursts to hitting her head against walls.

In 1983 she was referred to a psychiatrist by her family and was diagnosed with schizophrenia who described her as being in an agitated state, paranoid and psychotic.

One doctor described how Sheila believed she had been taken over by the devil and even described her sons as the "devil's children", just like June had called her.

Sheila even told her that she could make her sons be violent and that she felt she was capable of killing them.

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/sad-life-white-house-farms-3810392

"She had spoken about killing herself in the past, but doctors did not believe she was a genuine risk to herself.

The mum-of-two believed that she had been in direct contact with God and that people were trying to kill her, including her boyfriend.

Throughout her struggles, Sheila spent time in and out of hospital, including being admitted just five months before her death in 1985.

She was also put on aniti-psycotic drugs up until the day she died.

The last time she was discharged from hospital, Sheila was put on monthly injections which had a sedative effect."


Where was this information coming from?  Was it from her specialists? 

[Caroline]

They ground up Collin Caffell's collection of milk teeth from his kids to run DNA tests.  I'm looking forward to seeing if that has assisted in any way.  Surely it only supports the previous finding that the blood in the silencer was not Sheila's.

It always worried me why they were termed "the Devil's children"  OK Collin and Sheila weren't married, but surely that wasn't the only reason.

Do we have any experts here on the inheritance of blood groupings?

Colin and Sheila had been married!

[Robittybob1]

Colin and Sheila had been married!

If they were married at the time the twins were conceived why did anyone think of them as the "Devil's Children"?

[mrswah]

If they were married at the time the twins were conceived why did anyone think of them as the "Devil's Children"?

Result of Sheila thinking irrationally, owing to her illness, I believe. 

[Caroline]

If they were married at the time the twins were conceived why did anyone think of them as the "Devil's Children"?

There is no IF! FFS! I just posted their wedding picture, they certainly weren't at a fancy dress party!

[Robittybob1]

Result of Sheila thinking irrationally, owing to her illness, I believe.

Colin gave the twin's milk teeth to the investigators, so what were the results?  Studies (one about 15 years ago) have shown that up to 25% of children are not fathered by the person called Dad.  The results of the DNA analysis would have to be kept secret.

There is no IF! FFS! I just posted their wedding picture, they certainly weren't at a fancy dress party!

OK I accept they got married before the twins were conceived.  Apparently divorced soon after the twins were born.

[Robittybob1]

Sheila was desperate to get away from her deeply religious family and head for London. After leaving school at 16, she enrolled at a secretarial college in Swiss Cottage and began modelling. But in 1974, aged 17, in an echo of her own birth mother, she became pregnant by her boyfriend, and future husband, Colin Caffell.
The Bambers arranged an abortion. By now, Sheila's relationship with her mother was becoming increasingly fraught.

Her lack of physical affection left Sheila dreaming of her real mother. According to Colin, when he and Sheila were caught by June sunbathing naked in a field she called her the 'devil child'.

After Sheila became pregnant again, she and Colin married in May 1977, but she lost the baby at six months. She suffered another miscarriage before giving birth to twin sons in June 1979. But the marriage to Colin broke down five months later and they divorced in 1982.

While they remained friends, the years that followed were painful ones, dogged by Sheila's depression and mental illness and she began undergoing treatment in 1983 for mild schizophrenia.

Jeremy Bamber would later try to use her fragile mental health as a motive for murder when he initially convinced police Sheila carried out the killings before taking her own life. In the aftermath of the murders, much was made in the Press of Sheila's fragile mental state and whether or not meeting her [biological] mother had tipped her over the edge." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7971451/How-Jeremy-Bambers-sister-Bambi-overjoyed-meet-birth-mother-months-murder.html

[ISpyWithMyEye]

They ground up Collin Caffell's collection of milk teeth from his kids to run DNA tests.  I'm looking forward to seeing if that has assisted in any way.  Surely it only supports the previous finding that the blood in the silencer was not Sheila's.

It always worried me why they were termed "the Devil's children"  OK Collin and Sheila weren't married, but surely that wasn't the only reason.

Do we have any experts here on the inheritance of blood groupings?

Colin and Sheila’s twin sons’ teeth weren’t taken to discover parentage: they were taken because that repugnant lump of evil, Jeremy Bamber, tried one of his numerous attempts at trying to worm out of his cell by hoping the blood in the silencer didn’t match Sheila’s.

Colin, already bereft, had to hand over his boys’ milk teeth on account of the putrid psychopath you appear to admire:

You’ve admitted you’re looking forward to seeing the results, in the hope the twins weren’t Sheila’s and Colin’s children: Well, the results came back DECADES ago, and proved the twins parents were Sheila and Colin.

Those beautiful, sweet little children were NEVER called “Devil Children”!

They were loving, gorgeous, wonderful boys, and both June and Nevill ADORED them. And both their mother and father, Sheila and Colin adored them too!

The ONLY evil being in this is Jeremy, the psychopath you seem to suck up to...

[John]

Let's please not delve into areas which affect innocent living persons, it not cool.

[Robittybob1]

Colin and Sheila’s twin sons’ teeth weren’t taken to discover parentage: they were taken because that repugnant lump of evil, Jeremy Bamber, tried one of his numerous attempts at trying to worm out of his cell by hoping the blood in the silencer didn’t match Sheila’s.

Colin, already bereft, had to hand over his boys’ milk teeth on account of the putrid psychopath you appear to admire:

You’ve admitted you’re looking forward to seeing the results, in the hope the twins weren’t Sheila’s and Colin’s children: Well, the results came back DECADES ago, and proved the twins parents were Sheila and Colin.

Those beautiful, sweet little children were NEVER called “Devil Children”!

They were loving, gorgeous, wonderful boys, and both June and Nevill ADORED them. And both their mother and father, Sheila and Colin adored them too!

The ONLY evil being in this is Jeremy, the psychopath you seem to suck up to...

Show me the results.  Cite please.

[Robittybob1]

Colin and Sheila’s twin sons’ teeth weren’t taken to discover parentage: they were taken because that repugnant lump of evil, Jeremy Bamber, tried one of his numerous attempts at trying to worm out of his cell by hoping the blood in the silencer didn’t match Sheila’s.

Colin, already bereft, had to hand over his boys’ milk teeth on account of the putrid psychopath you appear to admire:

You’ve admitted you’re looking forward to seeing the results, in the hope the twins weren’t Sheila’s and Colin’s children: Well, the results came back DECADES ago, and proved the twins parents were Sheila and Colin.

Those beautiful, sweet little children were NEVER called “Devil Children”!

They were loving, gorgeous, wonderful boys, and both June and Nevill ADORED them. And both their mother and father, Sheila and Colin adored them too!

The ONLY evil being in this is Jeremy, the psychopath you seem to suck up to...

Are you able to provide evidence for the things you claim?