All the lies the Media have told about Christian Bruckner

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They cant prove it as such....but again ...taken with an absolute tsunami of circumstantail evidence...it can provide proof beyond reasonable doubt of  a crime. I really like what HCW is doing. Hes  a very smart man IMO.

Imo scepetics are totally missing the point. They are considering each piece of evidence in isolation...thats  amistake. they have to be seen as individual pieces of the puzzle...now who said that this week

It was forensics that did for one of the suspect's,the circumstantial meant jack all without it.

Mods can you move this to the circumstantial thread.

[barrier]

depends on what the accuracy of positioning is....and of course...if CB wont answer who he was talking to during that phone call the judge is entitled to draw  a negative inference..just how many negative inferences will it take.

if it was an innocent phone call...whats the problem. if all Cbs friends have been accounted for...who was it.
its like the police finding 100k in your car....its up to you to expalin how it got there. ...the police dont have to prove anything

Of course they do,up to and beyond reasonable doubt.

[Mr Gray]

It was forensics that did for one of the suspect's,the circumstantial meant jack all without it.

Mods can you move this to the circumstantial thread.

not sure what you are talking about...what forensics...what case. HCW has said...he doesnt need a body...weve seen gilroy convicted on purely circumstantial evidence...Im on the right track...im absolutely sure

[barrier]

not sure what you are talking about...what forensics...what case. HCW has said...he doesnt need a body...weve seen gilroy convicted on purely circumstantial evidence...Im on the right track...im absolutely sure

Police: Suspect no 1,on catch up on 5,watch it you might learn how a case is built.

[Mr Gray]

Of course they do,up to and beyond reasonable doubt.

no they dont. You have to explain where that money came from. i saw an interesting programme  filmed at airport departures. A man with 10 k in his pocket...no explanation of where it came from...the police confiscated it

[Mr Gray]

Police: Suspect no 1,on catch up on 5,watch it you might learn how a case is built.

I dont need to learn anything...I already know. Im taking a case to court myself where the police couldnt build a case....ill let you know how I get on

[G-Unit]

I think we're wandering off topic here. Try to get back please.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Police: Suspect no 1,on catch up on 5,watch it you might learn how a case is built.

Did you not watch the one on Shipman?  Named as a suspect months before he was charged.  Stories in the paperson a daily basis before he was even charged.  I expect if there’d been internet forums like this some smartarse would have been saying “won’t be long before he’s charged” ironically then as well.

[Robittybob1]

sorry rob...I wont be responding to your post. You are not quoting my post but one written by gunit

BS http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11698.msg620145#msg620145

[Mr Gray]

BS http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11698.msg620145#msg620145

that post may have my name but has been edited by gunit and is therefore no longer what I posted

[G-Unit]

that post may have my name but has been edited by gunit and is therefore no longer what I posted

I edited out your immaterial opinion on my viewpoint. Your post made no sense anyway. My point was that many in PdL knew nothing about the events of 3rd May until the morning of the 4th. Jeremy Wilkins only knew because some people knocked him up to tell him. He may have known where he was on 3rd May, but that was beside the point.

His memory, incidentally, was no more precise than anyone else's. He said he saw a man with dreadlocks on the evening of 3rd, but where? In the road, the restaurant, the toilet, the bar? It couldn't have been the restaurant because he said he couldn't see inside there. (three days earlier he said he himself was in there, mind)

4th May
He told us that yesterday, between 8.30 and 9pm, while he was in the "TAPAS" restaurant, he noted that a person of around 1.70m, with long blond hair, apparently of the "Rasta," style and dressed in green military-style clothes, entered the restaurant.

7th May
I left about 8:15 to 8:30 pm. I was pushing the pram around the complex and went to the toilet near the bar. I could not see inside the restaurant.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS.htm

5th Nov 2007
He walked around the main area of the resort and eventually ended up in the Tapas bar where he used the toilet facility.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY_BRIGET.htm

8th April 2008
At the next crossing, I turned right and continued on down the hill. At this point, I saw a man that was coming from the road and was headed to the reception. I believe that he was with a woman but I cannot be precise of any detail about her. It was a tall Caucasian man, with blonde hair in 'rasta style' tied with a band instead of free flowing. When I arrived, I headed to the WC near the pool area. He also was in the WC but appeared to be a taking a long time. I do not remember if he was still in that place when I left.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

[Mr Gray]

I edited out your immaterial opinion on my viewpoint. Your post made no sense anyway. My point was that many in PdL knew nothing about the events of 3rd May until the morning of the 4th. Jeremy Wilkins only knew because some people knocked him up to tell him. He may have known where he was on 3rd May, but that was beside the point.

His memory, incidentally, was no more precise than anyone else's. He said he saw a man with dreadlocks on the evening of 3rd, but where? In the road, the restaurant, the toilet, the bar? It couldn't have been the restaurant because he said he couldn't see inside there. (three days earlier he said he himself was in there, mind)

4th May
He told us that yesterday, between 8.30 and 9pm, while he was in the "TAPAS" restaurant, he noted that a person of around 1.70m, with long blond hair, apparently of the "Rasta," style and dressed in green military-style clothes, entered the restaurant.

7th May
I left about 8:15 to 8:30 pm. I was pushing the pram around the complex and went to the toilet near the bar. I could not see inside the restaurant.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS.htm

5th Nov 2007
He walked around the main area of the resort and eventually ended up in the Tapas bar where he used the toilet facility.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY_BRIGET.htm

8th April 2008
At the next crossing, I turned right and continued on down the hill. At this point, I saw a man that was coming from the road and was headed to the reception. I believe that he was with a woman but I cannot be precise of any detail about her. It was a tall Caucasian man, with blonde hair in 'rasta style' tied with a band instead of free flowing. When I arrived, I headed to the WC near the pool area. He also was in the WC but appeared to be a taking a long time. I do not remember if he was still in that place when I left.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

My opinion is only immaterial in your opinion..how dare you edit out my opinion..utter disgrace..since when has having an opinion been against the rules

I will be contacting John to ask if editing out a posters opinion when it breaks no forum rules is in any way justified

[G-Unit]

My opinion is only immaterial in your opinion..how dare you edit out my opinion..utter disgrace..since when has having an opinion been against the rules

I will be contacting John to ask if editing out a posters opinion when it breaks no forum rules is in any way justified

Your opinion was off topic, goading and insulting imo. I'm quite happy to be corrected if it's warranted.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I edited out your immaterial opinion on my viewpoint. Your post made no sense anyway. My point was that many in PdL knew nothing about the events of 3rd May until the morning of the 4th. Jeremy Wilkins only knew because some people knocked him up to tell him. He may have known where he was on 3rd May, but that was beside the point.

His memory, incidentally, was no more precise than anyone else's. He said he saw a man with dreadlocks on the evening of 3rd, but where? In the road, the restaurant, the toilet, the bar? It couldn't have been the restaurant because he said he couldn't see inside there. (three days earlier he said he himself was in there, mind)

4th May
He told us that yesterday, between 8.30 and 9pm, while he was in the "TAPAS" restaurant, he noted that a person of around 1.70m, with long blond hair, apparently of the "Rasta," style and dressed in green military-style clothes, entered the restaurant.

7th May
I left about 8:15 to 8:30 pm. I was pushing the pram around the complex and went to the toilet near the bar. I could not see inside the restaurant.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS.htm

5th Nov 2007
He walked around the main area of the resort and eventually ended up in the Tapas bar where he used the toilet facility.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY_BRIGET.htm

8th April 2008
At the next crossing, I turned right and continued on down the hill. At this point, I saw a man that was coming from the road and was headed to the reception. I believe that he was with a woman but I cannot be precise of any detail about her. It was a tall Caucasian man, with blonde hair in 'rasta style' tied with a band instead of free flowing. When I arrived, I headed to the WC near the pool area. He also was in the WC but appeared to be a taking a long time. I do not remember if he was still in that place when I left.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

Talk about nit-picking.  All the above goes to prove the point that a) memory isn’t photographic and b) there are often inconsistencies between first and third party accounts of the same recollection. 
My view is that if you learned on the 4th May that a child went missing from your holiday village the night before you would recall exactly where you were and what you were doing at the time the child apparently disappeared and you would remember these events for far longer (if not forever) than you would had it been a completely unremarkable day.  Look at the Smiths statements for one - when were they given?  Don’t you think they can still remember that evening far more clearly 13 years later than the events of the night of the 2nd May?

[G-Unit]

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