Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[John]

thats your opinion and wrong...a lie detector would not help clear their names as they are not reliable...you are quoting opinin as fact contrary to forum rules

I have to agree. The polygraph is based on sound reasoning but the technology has not advanced far enough yet for it to be foolproof.

At the moment the polygraph is used to scare people into making admissions, on its own it can prove nothing one way or another.  If the McCanns are completely innocent of any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance the result of such a test could come back positive or negative depending on the physiological responses apparent on the day. The same would happen if guilty. These tests have the ability to condemn the innocent so if the McCanns did agree to take one it was a rather foolish thing to do.

[Snowgirl]

I just happen to be watching a recent Belgian tv series . Last night it showed a person ,a suspect taking  the LDT .
The person  conducting it afterwards when asked about the result said “ he  lied just once ....did you kill X ? “ 
So why if the findings are not admissible are these tests conducted ? I don’t think it’s to make suspects fearful ?
 

[Mr Gray]

I just happen to be watching a recent Belgian tv series . Last night it showed a person ,a suspect taking  the LDT .
The person  conducting it afterwards when asked about the result said “ he  lied just once ....did you kill X ? “ 
So why if the findings are not admissible are these tests conducted ? I don’t think it’s to make suspects fearful ?

I think John's absolutely right...but it's pointless debating it...people will believe whatt they wish. What we know as a fact is they do not prove innocence or guilt

[faithlilly]

I have to agree. The polygraph is based on sound reasoning but the technology has not advanced far enough yet for it to be foolproof.

At the moment the polygraph is used to scare people into making admissions, on its own it can prove nothing one way or another.  If the McCanns are completely innocent of any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance the result of such a test could come back positive or negative depending on the physiological responses apparent on the day. The same would happen if guilty. These tests have the ability to condemn the innocent so if the McCanns did agree to take one it was a rather foolish thing to do.

It would have been which makes it odd that they suggested it.

[Mr Gray]

It would have been which makes it odd that they suggested it.

They didn't

It seems the truth is just not good enough....things have to be made up

[Eleanor]

It would have been which makes it odd that they suggested it.

They didn't.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm talking about what was reportedly said, not why it was said, which is what you are referring to.  "a lie detector would not help clear their names as they are not reliable" is your opinion, not said by the McCanns and not a fact.

If lie detectors were reliable there would never be a need for a crime to go to court.  Just submit to the test and if you fail, then off you trot to prison.

[Snowgirl]

I think John's absolutely right...but it's pointless debating it...people will believe whatt they wish. What we know as a fact is they do not prove innocence or guilt

Yes I’m sure John’s right too but my logical thinking still  asks why use them if they’re useless ?
When you see people being tested the lie shows as a big spike ? That’s showing an emotional reaction involved in telling of the lie ?

[Mr Gray]

Yes I’m sure John’s right too but my logical thinking still  asks why use them if they’re useless ?
When you see people being tested the lie shows as a big spike ? That’s showing an emotional reaction involved in telling of the lie ?

they have their uses but are not reliable enough to prove guilt or innocence....those are the facts

[Eleanor]

Yes I’m sure John’s right too but my logical thinking still  asks why use them if they’re useless ?
When you see people being tested the lie shows as a big spike ? That’s showing an emotional reaction involved in telling of the lie ?

Not always the telling of the lie.  That's the problem.

[faithlilly]

They didn't.

I think you’ll find they did.

[Mr Gray]

I think you’ll find they did.

no they didnt

[Vertigo Swirl]

How is it that people on here can be so obtuse?
The McCanns agreed to submit to a lie detector test but only if requested to do so by Portuguese police.  They PJ did not ask them to do a test.  Any other requests for them to do a lie detector test by other non-police agencies were turned down as the McCanns had made it clear the conditions under which they would participate.  The end.

[Eleanor]

How is it that people on here can be so obtuse?
The McCanns agreed to submit to a lie detector test but only if requested to do so by Portuguese police.  They PJ did not ask them to do a test.  Any other requests for them to do a lie detector test by other non-police agencies were turned down as the McCanns had made it clear the conditions under which they would participate.  The end.

That's it really.

[Mr Gray]

How is it that people on here can be so obtuse?
The McCanns agreed to submit to a lie detector test but only if requested to do so by Portuguese police.  They PJ did not ask them to do a test.  Any other requests for them to do a lie detector test by other non-police agencies were turned down as the McCanns had made it clear the conditions under which they would participate.  The end.

I dont think they ever agreed to a test.....IMO they were asked by a jornalist if they would...they then outlined the hypothetical situation where they would take the test....that isnt agreeing to take the test.
 a bit like CB agreeing to answer questions....when its possible to order holy water as  a long drink in hell...