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Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2821 on: November 10, 2020, 11:18:53 AM »
Find the video.  It used to be on YouTube.   I know he used his own blood.   He was human too you know.

https://youtu.be/en5zHpvG9m0?t=69 

"Send In The Dogs' Martin Grime's CADAVER and BLOOD dogs"

Talks about Keela later in the video > https://youtu.be/en5zHpvG9m0?t=214  Start around there.
His blood > https://youtu.be/en5zHpvG9m0?t=295

I know he used his own blood.   He didn't use any other tissue as far as I know.

Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2822 on: November 10, 2020, 11:21:49 AM »
No. I'm saying that parents who put their children first don't leave them home alone no matter where they are. That's because they don't want their children to cry, be sick or unwell without being comforted and reassured.

It has been implied that the McCann's encouraged a paedo to enter by leaving the children alone.

I agree I wouldn't have left my children alone,  the McCann's thought it was safe to do so,  they checked regularly.  Children can be sick or unwell when their parents are there in the house,  but if upstairs they wouldn't hear them unless they checked on them.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2823 on: November 10, 2020, 11:48:36 AM »
It has been implied that the McCann's encouraged a paedo to enter by leaving the children alone.

I agree I wouldn't have left my children alone,  the McCann's thought it was safe to do so,  they checked regularly.  Children can be sick or unwell when their parents are there in the house,  but if upstairs they wouldn't hear them unless they checked on them.

It doesn't matter what they said they thought, the fact remains that the McCanns decided to ignore the custom (and official advice) of either staying in or hiring a babysitter. When I had three children under 5 years of age in the 1960's I stayed in if I didn't have a babysitter. I didn't particularly like it, especially when my husband was expected to attend with or without me, but it was my duty.
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Offline Snowgirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2824 on: November 10, 2020, 12:14:57 PM »
You wonder...that's about it.
As VS says CB is now the prime suspect which shows the investigators are happy to ignore the alerts

  Grime has never indicated the alerts are related to MM. In fact he said they could be due to several different scenarios
Wluld you please post a cite where he’s said that davel ?I haven’t across it .

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2825 on: November 10, 2020, 12:17:17 PM »
Wluld you please post a cite where he’s said that davel ?I haven’t across it .

its in his statement...

My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
number of given scenarios
and in any event no evidential or intelligence
reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence.



Its surprising posters who post opinions on the alerts aren't aware of what Grime actually said
« Last Edit: November 10, 2020, 12:20:44 PM by Davel »

Offline Snowgirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2826 on: November 10, 2020, 12:39:31 PM »
its in his statement...

My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
number of given scenarios
and in any event no evidential or intelligence
reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence.



Its surprising posters who post opinions on the alerts aren't aware of what Grime actually said
Thankyou ,that’s weird because  I already read Martin Grime’s May 14th 2008  in the PJ files several times over periods of time but don’t see that passage anywhere in it .

However I found it in Grime’s  REPORT not his statement ,
« Last Edit: November 10, 2020, 12:56:45 PM by Snowgirl »

Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2827 on: November 10, 2020, 12:42:10 PM »
It doesn't matter what they said they thought, the fact remains that the McCanns decided to ignore the custom (and official advice) of either staying in or hiring a babysitter. When I had three children under 5 years of age in the 1960's I stayed in if I didn't have a babysitter. I didn't particularly like it, especially when my husband was expected to attend with or without me, but it was my duty.

I always had a baby sister,  the McCann's had a baby sitter at home.   This is what I mean about people on holiday they do things they would never do at home.   What do you think of people in tents or caravans who leave their children alone to go to a BBQ on the site?  They probably have baby sitters when they are at home.   The McCann's were still in the holiday resort when they went to dinner,  they probably felt like the parents in the tents/caravans  we are in a family safe holiday resort.

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2828 on: November 10, 2020, 01:17:54 PM »
Thankyou ,that’s weird because  I already read Martin Grime’s May 14th 2008  in the PJ files several times over periods of time but don’t see that passage anywhere in it .

However I found it in Grime’s  REPORT not his statement ,

Davel posted this link some time ago ~ http://eprints.staffs.ac.uk/4750/1/Forensic%20Canine%20Foundation%20.pdf

I think it reveals what an awful lot of nonsense has been read into the 'alerts' in Praia da Luz.  All unnecessary if only Grime had been listened to properly in the first place.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2829 on: November 10, 2020, 01:25:07 PM »
It doesn't matter what they said they thought, the fact remains that the McCanns decided to ignore the custom (and official advice) of either staying in or hiring a babysitter. When I had three children under 5 years of age in the 1960's I stayed in if I didn't have a babysitter. I didn't particularly like it, especially when my husband was expected to attend with or without me, but it was my duty.
We get it.  The McCanns didn't do what any other normal loving decent parent on the planet would have done.  They are in short wicked beyond belief.  How about we all agree to that and move on, would that satisfy you, or do we still need reminding on a daily basis how they abandoned their babies allowing one of them not to be stolen be a paedophile because (despite all the wicked neglect) the McCanns and their friends were checking so often the poor abductor didn't get a chance to carry out his dastardly deed?? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline pathfinder73

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Snowgirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2831 on: November 10, 2020, 01:26:06 PM »
Davel posted this link some time ago ~ http://eprints.staffs.ac.uk/4750/1/Forensic%20Canine%20Foundation%20.pdf

I think it reveals what an awful lot of nonsense has been read into the 'alerts' in Praia da Luz.  All unnecessary if only Grime had been listened to properly in the first place.
Thankyou .

Offline misty

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2832 on: November 10, 2020, 01:37:34 PM »
Davel posted this link some time ago ~ http://eprints.staffs.ac.uk/4750/1/Forensic%20Canine%20Foundation%20.pdf

I think it reveals what an awful lot of nonsense has been read into the 'alerts' in Praia da Luz.  All unnecessary if only Grime had been listened to properly in the first place.

Grime has had ample opportunity to correct public interpretation of his dogs' alerts following release of the excerpt in the Sun, taken from the extended video. He has chosen not to do so. In the circumstances, it's no wonder PJ cannot move beyond the parents & give serious consideration to CB having abducted a living Madeleine. IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lrrMoUr3OA

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2833 on: November 10, 2020, 01:39:18 PM »
Thankyou ,that’s weird because  I already read Martin Grime’s May 14th 2008  in the PJ files several times over periods of time but don’t see that passage anywhere in it .

However I found it in Grime’s  REPORT not his statement ,
So after 13 years you've never seen it...it's a bit tiresome continually having to point out the basics
You should be grateful I've taught you something

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2834 on: November 10, 2020, 01:41:02 PM »
As I've said all along. Wolters the bluffer! Evidence LOL. They have produced nothing because there is nothing!

Laughable...have you read the article..only a fool would fall for an article that says CB is to be released at the end of the year