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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3300 on: February 15, 2021, 12:29:45 PM »
Brueckner would surely have to be Convicted of Abduction and or Murder before he can take a case to The ECHR.

Remembering that The ECHR cannot overturn a Conviction.  Or so I am told.

By which time Brueckner will have no Reputation to trash?

Sheesh.  This is doing my head in.

The danger is that Wolter's pronouncements could cast doubt on the possibility of a fair trial. Being declared guilty before being tried can adversely influence the right to be presumed innocent until found guilty.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3301 on: February 15, 2021, 12:29:50 PM »


So can't possibly say it didn't pay off.



Well you are wrong L

I will say it again seems it didn't pay off. IMO.

Lace is only wrong in you opinion.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3302 on: February 15, 2021, 12:33:19 PM »
The danger is that Wolter's pronouncements could cast doubt on the possibility of a fair trial. Being declared guilty before being tried can adversely influence the right to be presumed innocent until found guilty.

So you think that German Judges can be influenced by Public Opinion?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3303 on: February 15, 2021, 12:36:53 PM »
The danger is that Wolter's pronouncements could cast doubt on the possibility of a fair trial. Being declared guilty before being tried can adversely influence the right to be presumed innocent until found guilty.

Wolters was asked this question and said he's confident the Judges will not be influenced. If it was a jury trial it would be different

Whatever happens CB can only involve the ECHR after all domestic avenues are complete and then ano the 4 to 5 yrs wait at the ECHR

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3304 on: February 15, 2021, 12:37:18 PM »
The danger is that Wolter's pronouncements could cast doubt on the possibility of a fair trial. Being declared guilty before being tried can adversely influence the right to be presumed innocent until found guilty.
How?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3305 on: February 15, 2021, 12:56:16 PM »
So you think that German Judges can be influenced by Public Opinion?

I think anyone can be influenced. In my opinion Justice Hogg demonstrated a definite pro-McCann bias during the case they brought to try to see evidence held by Leicestershire Constabulary.
https://themaddiecasefiles.com/ward-of-court-information-t3472.html
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Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3306 on: February 15, 2021, 01:08:50 PM »
Lace is only wrong in you opinion.

I know - that is what I pointed out to her.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3307 on: February 15, 2021, 01:09:28 PM »
I think anyone can be influenced. In my opinion Justice Hogg demonstrated a definite pro-McCann bias during the case they brought to try to see evidence held by Leicestershire Constabulary.
https://themaddiecasefiles.com/ward-of-court-information-t3472.html

The difference here is that the trial judge will hear all the evidence for and against

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3308 on: February 15, 2021, 01:16:21 PM »
I think anyone can be influenced. In my opinion Justice Hogg demonstrated a definite pro-McCann bias during the case they brought to try to see evidence held by Leicestershire Constabulary.
https://themaddiecasefiles.com/ward-of-court-information-t3472.html

This is outrageous.  In my opinion.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3309 on: February 15, 2021, 01:34:18 PM »
I think anyone can be influenced. In my opinion Justice Hogg demonstrated a definite pro-McCann bias during the case they brought to try to see evidence held by Leicestershire Constabulary.
https://themaddiecasefiles.com/ward-of-court-information-t3472.html
What pro-McCann activity do you think brought undue influence upon Justice Hogg's decision?
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Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3310 on: February 15, 2021, 01:41:54 PM »
Maybe Wolters isn't feeding the media.


Lol does the media ever -  need feeding?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #3311 on: February 15, 2021, 04:09:37 PM »

Lol does the media ever -  need feeding?
Careful not to "slur " the media.  In some way what you're saying sounds a bit like a put-down to me.
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Offline kizzy

Seems Its obvious that all wolt has is circumstantial evidence as many suspected ...

Just because of the phone ping and hearsay ...

He does need but... seems he is not going to get the solid  evidence....That CB was in 5a.

We know the mccs were in 5a ...gmc was the last person to see maddie...

Window open door slamming non of this has ever been proved ...or any evidence of an intruder.

Just it seems the mccs version of events....abducted yet let everyone in the apartment when kmc had already searched it.

What is a fact is 3 children were left in an open apartment..an to this day not one bit of evidence to say it seems maddie was abducted.

Yet we are expected to believe a no mark drifter commited the perfect crime ...ye right.

Surely I believe imo what happened to maddie is staring you in the face...but only if you want to see it. 






German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has now revealed that new evidence has been gathered in recent days, though he declined to reveal specifics.

He told the Sun: 'We are still building the case and at some time in the future we shall share the details with the suspect and his lawyer — but now is not the time.

'I cannot disclose the type of evidence we have been given, it is not forensic I can tell you that but it is new circumstantial evidence which all adds to the working theory that he is the man responsible.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9573237/Police-probing-Madeleine-McCann-case-dramatic-new-evidence-against-Christian-Brueckner.html

Offline Mr Gray

Seems Its obvious that all wolt has is circumstantial evidence as many suspected ...

Just because of the phone ping and hearsay ...

He does need but... seems he is not going to get the solid  evidence....That CB was in 5a.

We know the mccs were in 5a ...gmc was the last person to see maddie...

Window open door slamming non of this has ever been proved ...or any evidence of an intruder.

Just it seems the mccs version of events....abducted yet let everyone in the apartment when kmc had already searched it.

What is a fact is 3 children were left in an open apartment..an to this day not one bit of evidence to say it seems maddie was abducted.

Yet we are expected to believe a no mark drifter commited the perfect crime ...ye right.

Surely I believe imo what happened to maddie is staring you in the face...but only if you want to see it. 






German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has now revealed that new evidence has been gathered in recent days, though he declined to reveal specifics.

He told the Sun: 'We are still building the case and at some time in the future we shall share the details with the suspect and his lawyer — but now is not the time.

'I cannot disclose the type of evidence we have been given, it is not forensic I can tell you that but it is new circumstantial evidence which all adds to the working theory that he is the man responsible.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9573237/Police-probing-Madeleine-McCann-case-dramatic-new-evidence-against-Christian-Brueckner.html

I think you are completely mistaken... We wil see

Offline Anthro

Seems Its obvious that all wolt has is circumstantial evidence as many suspected ...

Just because of the phone ping and hearsay ...

He does need but... seems he is not going to get the solid  evidence....That CB was in 5a.

We know the mccs were in 5a ...gmc was the last person to see maddie...

Window open door slamming non of this has ever been proved ...or any evidence of an intruder.

Just it seems the mccs version of events....abducted yet let everyone in the apartment when kmc had already searched it.

What is a fact is 3 children were left in an open apartment..an to this day not one bit of evidence to say it seems maddie was abducted.

Yet we are expected to believe a no mark drifter commited the perfect crime ...ye right.

Surely I believe imo what happened to maddie is staring you in the face...but only if you want to see it. 






German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has now revealed that new evidence has been gathered in recent days, though he declined to reveal specifics.

He told the Sun: 'We are still building the case and at some time in the future we shall share the details with the suspect and his lawyer — but now is not the time.

'I cannot disclose the type of evidence we have been given, it is not forensic I can tell you that but it is new circumstantial evidence which all adds to the working theory that he is the man responsible.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9573237/Police-probing-Madeleine-McCann-case-dramatic-new-evidence-against-Christian-Brueckner.html
Brückner was not necessarily inside apartment 5A. Theoretically, someone else could have passed Madeleine on to him. My opinion.