The Cadaver test on the cars using the dogs

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Not very professional at all Gilet.

I can never understand, how Eddie played with cuddlecat, in the living room, and Grime picked it up.
Then all of a sudden a few minutes later, cuddlecat pops out from under the kitchen sink, cupboard.

what a conundrum - and then called it an "alert"

[debunker]

Interesting video.

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t1924-something-very-wrong-here
Uploaded on 6 Sep 2008

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Very interesting video DCI.    Did you ever find out why the posters were removed before the dog was put in the car?



I also find the test with the dog exceedingly biased towards the McCanns hire car.  The handler just stood there and kept bringing the dog back to the car...undoubtedly the poor pooch had no choice but to come up with something.

If this is what constitutes a test for cadaver then I find it appalling.

Of course you find it appalling, you support the Mccanns.

And you don't see anything wrong with that Video?

No.

Why should the handler show bias against the mccanns.


Another myth,that everyone conspires against the mccanns.

NEver mindwe havetried our best to educate you and we have failed.



Shame you will remain in ignorance.

You have a one world view.


 Grimes had no axe to grind.

He merely did his job.

The trouble is, you're blinded by your adoration of the Mccanns.

I do not 'adore' the McCanns. I have never warmed to them and find them slightly creepy. I denounce their childcare.

I do support justice and fairness, the right to beassumed innocent till proven guilty, a right to privacy and a right to counter defamation.

I have never been a pro; my position is best described as anti-anti!

[Angelo222]

There appears to be two or more thread on the subject of the cadaver dogs.  Can admin combine them in due course?

Regarding Grimes and the alerts I have to agree it appears a bit of a sham.  Do these people actually get paid for this spectacle?

[Carana]

Something I've always found a bit strange: as far as I can work out, Eddie didn't react to the boot.

[debunker]

Something I've always found a bit strange: as far as I can work out, Eddie didn't react to the boot.

That is correct. He reacted to a scent that probably came from the blood on the key fob which was confirmed by Forensics to be Gerry's. He did not seem to be deployed in the boot which Keela reacted to; deploying him would prove nothing as both react to dried blood.

[Carana]

Something I've always found a bit strange: as far as I can work out, Eddie didn't react to the boot.

That is correct. He reacted to a scent that probably came from the blood on the key fob which was confirmed by Forensics to be Gerry's. He did not seem to be deployed in the boot which Keela reacted to; deploying him would prove nothing as both react to dried blood.

But why didn't he react to the outside of the boot if that is where the "residues" were supposed to have been?

[debunker]

Something I've always found a bit strange: as far as I can work out, Eddie didn't react to the boot.

That is correct. He reacted to a scent that probably came from the blood on the key fob which was confirmed by Forensics to be Gerry's. He did not seem to be deployed in the boot which Keela reacted to; deploying him would prove nothing as both react to dried blood.

But why didn't he react to the outside of the boot if that is where the "residues" were supposed to have been?

THere was undoubtedly blood in the car in the boot and on the key fob. Keela is trained to mark very specifically where the scent originates. Eddie is trained to react to global odors and does not localise them. Once he had marked the car there w as s no more to be gained by deploying him.

[Eleanor]

Something I've always found a bit strange: as far as I can work out, Eddie didn't react to the boot.

That is correct. He reacted to a scent that probably came from the blood on the key fob which was confirmed by Forensics to be Gerry's. He did not seem to be deployed in the boot which Keela reacted to; deploying him would prove nothing as both react to dried blood.

But why didn't he react to the outside of the boot if that is where the "residues" were supposed to have been?

THere was undoubtedly blood in the car in the boot and on the key fob. Keela is trained to mark very specifically where the scent originates. Eddie is trained to react to global odors and does not localise them. Once he had marked the car there w as s no more to be gained by deploying him.

Phew.  Thank God for that.  They could have been there all week.

[Carana]

THere was undoubtedly blood in the car in the boot and on the key fob. Keela is trained to mark very specifically where the scent originates. Eddie is trained to react to global odors and does not localise them. Once he had marked the car there w as s no more to be gained by deploying him.

But my point is slightly different, Debunker.

IFFF there had been the odour of decomposing human material in the boot, why didn't Eddie even react?

Keela reacted to the inside of the boot. She had only been been trained to search for the physical presence of tiny amounts of blood, apparently. There was no forensic evidence to corroborate that blood had been found. However, I find it more logical that, if that was the only substance that she had been trained to detect, that her reaction may have been accurate.

Keela seems to have been the key dog, not Eddie.

[debunker]

THere was undoubtedly blood in the car in the boot and on the key fob. Keela is trained to mark very specifically where the scent originates. Eddie is trained to react to global odors and does not localise them. Once he had marked the car there w as s no more to be gained by deploying him.

But my point is slightly different, Debunker.



IFFF there had been the odour of decomposing human material in the boot, why didn't Eddie even react?

Keela reacted to the inside of the boot. She had only been been trained to search for the physical presence of tiny amounts of blood, apparently. There was no forensic evidence to corroborate that blood had been found. However, I find it more logical that, if that was the only substance that she had been trained to detect, that her reaction may have been accurate.


Keela seems to have been the key dog, not Eddie.

IIRC Eddie was not deployed in the boot.

I am not sure you understand how the dogs work together.

[Eleanor]

THere was undoubtedly blood in the car in the boot and on the key fob. Keela is trained to mark very specifically where the scent originates. Eddie is trained to react to global odors and does not localise them. Once he had marked the car there w as s no more to be gained by deploying him.

But my point is slightly different, Debunker.

IFFF there had been the odour of decomposing human material in the boot, why didn't Eddie even react?

Keela reacted to the inside of the boot. She had only been been trained to search for the physical presence of tiny amounts of blood, apparently. There was no forensic evidence to corroborate that blood had been found. However, I find it more logical that, if that was the only substance that she had been trained to detect, that her reaction may have been accurate.

Keela seems to have been the key dog, not Eddie.

Eddie was often confused, and decidedly manic.  Not all that well behaved at all.  But Martin Grime knew that.

[Carana]

THere was undoubtedly blood in the car in the boot and on the key fob. Keela is trained to mark very specifically where the scent originates. Eddie is trained to react to global odors and does not localise them. Once he had marked the car there w as s no more to be gained by deploying him.

But my point is slightly different, Debunker.



IFFF there had been the odour of decomposing human material in the boot, why didn't Eddie even react?

Keela reacted to the inside of the boot. She had only been been trained to search for the physical presence of tiny amounts of blood, apparently. There was no forensic evidence to corroborate that blood had been found. However, I find it more logical that, if that was the only substance that she had been trained to detect, that her reaction may have been accurate.


Keela seems to have been the key dog, not Eddie.

IIRC Eddie was not deployed in the boot.

I am not sure you understand how the dogs work together.

My question is not why he was not deployed inside the car.

It's why did he not REACT to the boot from the outside?

The boot with all this supposed post-mortem residue stuff.

[debunker]

Eddie didn't initially react to the car at all. Once he alerted to the odor emanating from inside, he was of no further forensic use. The only
THing to do was deploy Keela for specific area.

[Eleanor]

Eddie didn't initially react to the car at all. Once he alerted to the odor emanating from inside, he was of no further forensic use. The only
THing to do was deploy Keela for specific area.

You are sometimes a little blind to the supposed use of The Dogs in conjunction.  The alert of Eddie alone is not necessarily proof of Cadaver Odour.

[debunker]

Eddie didn't initially react to the car at all. Once he alerted to the odor emanating from inside, he was of no further forensic use. The only
THing to do was deploy Keela for specific area.

You are sometimes a little blind to the supposed use of The Dogs in conjunction.  The alert of Eddie alone is not necessarily proof of Cadaver Odour.

NO. I am exact about the dogs. If Eddie has reacted in an  area,the only additional information obtainable is a negative from Keela which would suggest cadaver odor. Any further reaction from Eddie in t h e car would add nothing.