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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #330 on: June 05, 2021, 05:51:54 PM »
Sandra Lean featured Simon Hall’s innocence fraud in her book ‘no smoke’

I have read "No Smoke", and i got the impression that SL was not saying the people featured in it were definitely innocent, but that there were aspects of their trials that made one ask questions.

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #331 on: June 08, 2021, 03:49:51 AM »
And Jerome

Sharon Sunshine says laughing ‘incase you didn’t know we’re in the Sandra Lean fan club’

Louise says twice she has ‘two notepads now’ she also plugs Sandra’s book and says it’s ‘more important to read the book’ and ‘people need educated’

No idea who ‘Pete’ is referred to by Jerome - Killer Brendan Dassy’s father possibly?

Here’s Sharon mocking Paul Capaldi https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vcFJN5-ciN0 another YouTube ‘influencer’

She laughs all the way through whilst talking about a brutal murder of a 14 year old girl.

🌻Her name is Jodi Jones🌻

In some ways their behaviour reminds me of the ‘influencer’ referred to here  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zsLxg3zSnjA&ab_channel=Foryoureyesonly

More on the wrongful conviction movement and the use of ‘influencers’ here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=laujRg3W5C4&feature=youtu.be

What did Sharon Sunshine, Louise, Dani, Stephanie, Fiona, Paul, Kenny and Jerome really know about Sandra Lean before they came across her and her book or the James English podcast?
“I am a Truthseeker, searching for truth” “Make of that what you will”

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #332 on: June 08, 2021, 03:53:38 AM »
She laughs all the way through whilst talking about a brutal murder of a 14 year old girl.

🌻Her name is Jodi Jones🌻
“I am a Truthseeker, searching for truth” “Make of that what you will”

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #333 on: June 11, 2021, 08:44:19 AM »
I have read "No Smoke", and i got the impression that SL was not saying the people featured in it were definitely innocent, but that there were aspects of their trials that made one ask questions.

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1st January 2011 - re Simon Hall’s appeal verdict
Sandra Lean - ‘skeleton statements’
Conviction overturned, no re-trial

We are obviously delighted that the Court of Appeal has finally recognised what we have been telling them  all along – Simon was always innocent of this crime. There will be many issues to be addressed in the coming months, including questions regarding why evidence pointing to other suspects was never properly investigated, and why it has taken so long to get to this stage. Bearing in mind that the real perpetrators may yet be brought to trial, and they deserve a fair trial, which is something not afforded to Simon, I cannot go into too much detail about the other evidence at this time. However, should the authorities fail to re-open the investigation into Mrs Albert’s death and pursue the real murderers, then we will not hesitate to make public everything we have uncovered. One way or another, the whole truth will come out, we will make sure of it.

Conviction quashed, Re-trial ordered.
‘Although we are pleased that the Court of Appeal has finally recognised that the conviction of Simon was flawed, we are disappointed in the decision to stage a re-trial. Although I am unable to say too much at this stage, the CPS knew about several other pieces of evidence pointing away from Simon and towards another perpetrator right from the beginning of this case.
It is shameful that it has taken this long for them to admit this conviction was unsafe, and an outrage that an innocent  man must remain in prison awaiting another trial, when the original case against him has collapsed. Simon has already lost more than eight years of his life to this disgrace, and now must wait for the system to set up yet another ordeal in his fight to prove his innocence.
However, we are confident that the re-trial will exonerate Simon completely, and he will finally walk out of prison the way he walked in – innocent.
Sandra Lean, who featured Simon’s case in her book “No Smoke” said this morning, “What today’s  decision means is that the British Justice system would rather allow murderers to walk among us, and innocent men to languish in jails for crimes they did not commit, than simply admit they got it wrong. Given that the DPP himself said that without the fibre evidence, there was no case, this re-trial appears to be nothing more than a face-saving exercise from a prosecution machine that cannot accept its own failings. Perhaps the best that can be said about it is that it offers the opportunity for Simon to finally clear his name.”


Conviction Upheld
This decision is an affront to justice. The CPS knows that there was another burglary that evening in Capel. They know that the SOCOs went directly from  that crime scene to the murder scene. They know that there was DNA on the knife that did not belong to Simon, that the original fibre investigation concluded no match for the fibres, and that the jury was misled into believing that the knife that was used to kill Mrs Albert must have come from an opened drawer in her own kitchen.
They also know that another man confessed to this murder. So why do they insist on keeping an innocent man in prison, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of this other evidence? What can possibly be gained by allowing the real perpetrators to remain free and unpunished?
We will not rest until the whole truth of this case has been made public, and that includes the collusion and cover-up which has allowed this gross miscarriage of justice to persist for so long, and which, sadly, in light of today’s decision, will be allowed to continue.
We will never give up the fight for justice for Simon. The truth will come out – all of it. The DPP himself said that without the fibre evidence, there was no case. The fibre evidence has now been discredited – why is Simon to remain in prison for another man’s crime?
Sandra Lean, who featured Simon’s case in her book “No Smoke” said this morning, “This is a dark day for British Justice. This decision tells us that the justice system in this country would rather allow murderers to walk among us, and innocent men to languish in prison for crimes they did not commit, than simply admit, “We got it wrong.” Any other industry behaving in this way would be closed down – the justice industry is answerable to no-one. The fight for Simon Hall’s freedom goes on.
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« Last Edit: June 11, 2021, 08:48:53 AM by Nicholas »
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #334 on: June 11, 2021, 08:49:42 AM »
She laughs all the way through whilst talking about a brutal murder of a 14 year old girl.

🌻Her name is Jodi Jones🌻

She believes her own lies - she’s deluded

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/spycatcher/201301/are-you-being-manipulated-social-puppeteer?amp&__twitter_impression=true
« Last Edit: June 11, 2021, 08:59:42 AM by Nicholas »
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #335 on: June 16, 2021, 11:21:17 PM »

Sharon Sunshine says laughing ‘incase you didn’t know we’re in the Sandra Lean fan club’


And not unlike Sandra Lean Sharon is also a liar

Referring to me Sharon Indy Sunshine claims ⬇️

I have them blocked on Twitter after a nasty bunch of  tweets and dms directed at me when Sandra was on with me away last year!
I say ignore them, it's not worth the energy it takes away from the fight for Luke and Jodi.
Let them bitch, we are strong and wee know what we are doing!
So instead of getting pissed off get out there and inform people, at your work at the park, in shops, at your front door if necessary.
Your voice is a powerful thing let's hear it!!
💛💛💛



I have never sent this women a DM! What reason would I have to do so?

Nor do I consider my tweets in response to her ludicrous assumptions ‘nasty’ - in the main I asked her questions

She even made the ludicrous claim I was ‘reading too much into’ her thoughts ??? ⬇️

https://twitter.com/Sharonsunshiney/status/1324133667657142272

Further ⬇️

https://twitter.com/HiddenInjustice/status/1332688879028228100
« Last Edit: June 16, 2021, 11:36:49 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline TruthSeeker2003

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #336 on: June 22, 2021, 12:48:37 AM »
She's still promoting her Youtube and using Jodi’s brutal murder as a stepping stone to “fame” it's disgusting quite frankly. That's putting it mildly.

Her name is Jodi Jones 🌻
“I am a Truthseeker, searching for truth” “Make of that what you will”

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #337 on: July 01, 2021, 06:14:13 AM »
‘Making a murderer’ superfan Paul Capaldi recently read an excerpt from Sandra Leans book & referred to her as Sandra ‘Lane’ during his podcast via his YouTube channel

However apparently Sandra Lean states in the introduction of her book,

Quote
Truth seeking is a precarious task and often maligned pursuit - to be labelled a crazy conspiracy theorist, interfering do-gooder, fame seeker, evil bitch, murderer lover, sicko - these are the reactions of many who are afraid of the truth’
From my viewpoint - especially in relation to her involvement with Billy Middleton (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg385712.html#msg385712)
& killer Simon Hall - it is Sandra lean who appears to be afraid of the truth

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/fury-as-dad-of-annalise-middleton-sets-1019199

Did Sandra Lean decide to write IB after having watched Netflix’s ‘making a murderer’ ?

Was this her ‘target’ audience?
« Last Edit: July 01, 2021, 06:25:25 AM by Nicholas »
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #338 on: July 01, 2021, 10:11:15 AM »
From my viewpoint - especially in relation to her involvement with Billy Middleton (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg385712.html#msg385712)
& killer Simon Hall - it is Sandra lean who appears to be afraid of the truth

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/fury-as-dad-of-annalise-middleton-sets-1019199


Did Sandra Lean decide to write IB after having watched Netflix’s ‘making a murderer’ ?

Was this her ‘target’ audience?

I forgot about PC. He also ignored my question. I asked him if he'd looked further than SL's books for information. Like Sharon Sunshine I find him difficult to watch.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #339 on: July 01, 2021, 10:16:08 AM »
And not unlike Sandra Lean Sharon is also a liar

Sandra Lean claimed her book No Smoke had been pulled from publication

Why then is there a photograph of its cover here with no explanation https://innocentsbetrayedltd.com/ ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #340 on: July 01, 2021, 10:19:19 AM »
I forgot about PC. He also ignored my question. I asked him if he'd looked further than SL's books for information. Like Sharon Sunshine I find him difficult to watch.

Paul Capaldi 🙄

He’s extremely deluded along with Derek Edmund

Derek Edmund was apparently 2 years older than [Name removed]’s and once saw her in the school playground with you know who

He now claims to have spoken to them 🙄

Derek Edmund (3rd March 2021)
‘Looking forward to the chat with you Paul. Also being one of the Admins for this group, I would like to see as many of the members from this group tuned in as possible. The more awareness we raise regarding this case, the better the chance of obtaining an independent case review 😊


Someone asked Derek if he was in [Name removed]’s & LM’s year at school - his reply,

EM I wasn’t but had mutual friends in their year 😊

He also states on 25th Feb 2021,

CH I have my beliefs but with being part of the main group and working so closely with Sandra, I am not really in a position to say as pointing fingers could jeopardise the integrity of any case review that we are trying to fight for.

&

CH I’m part of the official team working alongside Sandra to raise the profile of the case but very close to the heartbeat of the case right now yes.

‘CH it’s fine being on this group as it’s run by the team. There’s a lot of rumours flying around just now. Everything will even itself out if we get the independent case review.


Derek Edmund
‘I went to the same school at the same time as Luke and Jodi and knew them both so this case is so close to me that I feel invested in getting Jodi and Luke their justice.


Derek Edmund maybe ‘knew’ of them but he didn’t know either of them - he recalls seeing them once according to another disclosure he made

Derek Edmund
‘Once you break down the probability of Luke committing the crime, you see how distanced he becomes from being a suspect, let alone the key suspect. From the timings, to the DNA to the eyewitness accounts and statements being changed and not questioned. To also pass a polygraph test both Luke and his Mum passing with flying colours, it couldn’t have been more conclusive. Questions were there from the outset regarding Luke’s incarceration and we won’t give up on this until we get him exonerated.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2021, 10:31:43 AM by Nicholas »
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #341 on: July 01, 2021, 10:28:58 AM »
Paul Capaldi 🙄

He’s extremely deluded along with Derek Edmund

Derek Edmund was apparently 2 years older than [Name removed]’s and once saw her in the school playground with you know who

He now claims to have spoken to them 🙄

Derek Edmund (3rd March 2021)
‘Looking forward to the chat with you Paul. Also being one of the Admins for this group, I would like to see as many of the members from this group tuned in as possible. The more awareness we raise regarding this case, the better the chance of obtaining an independent case review 😊


Someone asked Derek if he was in [Name removed]’s & LM’s year at school - his reply,

EM I wasn’t but had mutual friends in their year 😊

He also states on 25th Feb 2021,

CH I have my beliefs but with being part of the main group and working so closely with Sandra, I am not really in a position to say as pointing fingers could jeopardise the integrity of any case review that we are trying to fight for.

&

CH I’m part of the official team working alongside Sandra to raise the profile of the case but very close to the heartbeat of the case right now yes.

‘CH it’s fine being on this group as it’s run by the team. There’s a lot of rumours flying around just now. Everything will even itself out if we get the independent case review.


I shall have to Google Derek Edmund.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #342 on: July 01, 2021, 10:45:45 AM »
I shall have to Google Derek Edmund.

He appears to have been manipulated and fallen for the credibility fallacy

Derek Edmund
That’s interesting as I lived in Whitecraig at the time. I still imagine Luke as I saw him last at school. Same with Jodi too. Working so closely with Dr Sandra Lean and our little team that we have, we are not giving up on getting that justice for both Jodi and Luke. We won’t stop until we see Luke exonerated. The more likeminded people we get on board, the more clout we will have to call into question those who have let the system down and more importantly, Jodi and Luke.


As I’ve said - he apparently recalls seeing them both in the school playground once talking to each other
« Last Edit: July 01, 2021, 11:06:00 AM by Nicholas »
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #343 on: July 02, 2021, 04:49:53 PM »
He appears to have been manipulated and fallen for the credibility fallacy

Derek Edmund
That’s interesting as I lived in Whitecraig at the time. I still imagine Luke as I saw him last at school. Same with Jodi too. Working so closely with Dr Sandra Lean and our little team that we have, we are not giving up on getting that justice for both Jodi and Luke. We won’t stop until we see Luke exonerated. The more likeminded people we get on board, the more clout we will have to call into question those who have let the system down and more importantly, Jodi and Luke.


As I’ve said - he apparently recalls seeing them both in the school playground once talking to each other

Derek Edmund - who was a couple of years older than Jodi has gone from apparently once seeing her and her killer LM in the school playground

to now claiming he used to ‘chat to’ Jodi at school 🙄
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #344 on: July 05, 2021, 10:07:28 PM »
Sandra Lean has stated many things in relation to her book ‘No Smoke’

For example in January 2017 she stated here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg382961.html#msg382961

the baton for claimed Miscarriages of Justice is a matter for the person deciding to do so, and their own conscience.”[/i]


For me Sandra Lean appears to have a low level conscience and her morality is highly questionable
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