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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #210 on: March 20, 2021, 06:42:02 PM »
Luke Mitchell
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The last time I was truly happy was with Jodi. I was always bullied by teachers and considered suicide

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16881794.luke-mitchell-interview-rather-stay-behind-bars-admit-guilt-murder-jodi-jones/

Has anyone asked the Mitchell’s or Sandra Lean to explain any of this?

2018
I was always bullied as a kid - by my teachers, other schoolkids. I was always taught never throw the first punch. I've always been blamed for things I didn't do. This situation is an escalated version of that.”
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #211 on: March 20, 2021, 06:48:50 PM »
Luke Mitchell stated to Rozlyn Little
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The last time I was truly happy was with Jodi. I was always bullied by teachers and considered suicide


Who did Mitchell speak to regarding his suicide idealisations?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #212 on: March 20, 2021, 07:00:36 PM »
Even if she had found out, and was upset and/or angry,  why would Luke have killed her? Teenage boys and girls two time, and  dump each other all the time, without it leading to murder!

Unless Luke was high on drugs, I can't see any reason why he would have murdered his girlfriend, of all people.

I recommend ‘In Control: Dangerous Relationships and How They End in Murder’ by Prof Jane Mockton Smith

In the UK, every week three women are killed by their partners. Over half the women killed by men are killed by a current or ex-partner. On average domestic abuse victims are assaulted 68 times before calling the police. There is a domestic violence epidemic happening right now, yet as a society we still turn a blind eye to it. In a culture that has normalised misogyny, we determinedly cling to the belief that domestic violence is a private matter in which both parties bear some responsibility. Even our legal system legitimises the idea that people who hurt or kill their partners have snapped and lost control, committed a 'crime of passion'. But domestic violence has a clear pattern. Jealousy. Controlling behaviour. Stalking. Verbal abuse. A history of violence. Specialising in homicide, stalking and coercive control, internationally renowned forensic criminologist and former police officer Jane Monckton-Smith has spent decades researching domestic violence cases that have ended in homicide. From her research she developed an 8-stage timeline which has revolutionised the approach to predicting homicide in domestic abuse cases. Part case study, part social commentary and part memoir of a woman dealing with domestic homicide, In Control shows that there are clear signs when a relationship is about to turn violent - we've just been trained not to see them
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #213 on: March 20, 2021, 07:14:14 PM »
I recommend ‘In Control: Dangerous Relationships and How They End in Murder’ by Prof Jane Mockton Smith

In the UK, every week three women are killed by their partners. Over half the women killed by men are killed by a current or ex-partner. On average domestic abuse victims are assaulted 68 times before calling the police. There is a domestic violence epidemic happening right now, yet as a society we still turn a blind eye to it. In a culture that has normalised misogyny, we determinedly cling to the belief that domestic violence is a private matter in which both parties bear some responsibility. Even our legal system legitimises the idea that people who hurt or kill their partners have snapped and lost control, committed a 'crime of passion'. But domestic violence has a clear pattern. Jealousy. Controlling behaviour. Stalking. Verbal abuse. A history of violence. Specialising in homicide, stalking and coercive control, internationally renowned forensic criminologist and former police officer Jane Monckton-Smith has spent decades researching domestic violence cases that have ended in homicide. From her research she developed an 8-stage timeline which has revolutionised the approach to predicting homicide in domestic abuse cases. Part case study, part social commentary and part memoir of a woman dealing with domestic homicide, In Control shows that there are clear signs when a relationship is about to turn violent - we've just been trained not to see them

Prof Monckton Smith has apparently looked into [Name removed]’s murder and stated recently (Although having not seen the channel 5 show) in response to comments on secondary DNA transfer and/or contamination

The so-called CSI effect may be relevant. The expectation that forensic evidence is always there is misleading

And Prof David Wilson appeared to agree with the above
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #214 on: March 20, 2021, 08:05:51 PM »
Luke Mitchell

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The last time I was truly happy was with Jodi. I was always bullied by teachers and considered suicide

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16881794.luke-mitchell-interview-rather-stay-behind-bars-admit-guilt-murder-jodi-jones/

Has anyone asked the Mitchell’s or Sandra Lean to explain any of this?

2018

I was always bullied as a kid - by my teachers, other schoolkids. I was always taught never throw the first punch. I've always been blamed for things I didn't do. This situation is an escalated version of that.”

There were further references to suicide in/on Luke Mitchell’s school jotters

Mitchell wrote:

“Why can’t I die?
Is there a purpose in my life?
If not, then suicide is my best option!”

Source: https://expressdigest.com/murderer-luke-mitchell-in-fresh-bid-to-clear-his-name/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #215 on: March 20, 2021, 08:10:28 PM »
In response to the question:

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“What influence did the media coverage on the case have on the public’s perception of Luke Mitchell?”

Sandra Lean made reference to photographs of inside Luke Mitchell’s house

Sandra Lean
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There was stuff from inside Luke’s house, photographs from inside Luke’s house Well those reporters were never inside Luke’s house The only place they could of come from was the investigation


What date were the bedroom photographs published - does anyone know?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #216 on: March 20, 2021, 09:00:08 PM »
Sandra Lean stated

’There was stuff from inside Luke’s house, photographs from inside Luke’s house Well those reporters were never inside Luke’s house The only place they could of come from was the investigation

There were reporters inside the Mitchell’s house - on the day of [Name removed]’s funeral - invited in by Corrine Mitchell

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=67.msg458#msg458
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #217 on: March 20, 2021, 09:17:07 PM »
Sandra Lean stated

’There was stuff from inside Luke’s house, photographs from inside Luke’s house Well those reporters were never inside Luke’s house The only place they could of come from was the investigation

There were reporters inside the Mitchell’s house - on the day of [Name removed]’s funeral - invited in by Corrine Mitchell

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=67.msg458#msg458

Sandra Lean stated the above during an interview for ‘A state on mind’

In her interview with James English,

Sandra states,

It started to become apparent there were two two things that started to become apparent the first was that some of this information had to be coming from the police erm you know information about the layout of the family home unless unless it was people who’d been in the family home where else was that information coming from “
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Offline Mrs S

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #218 on: March 20, 2021, 09:29:15 PM »
Sandra Lean stated the above during an interview for ‘A state on mind’

In her interview with James English,

Sandra states,

It started to become apparent there were two two things that started to become apparent the first was that some of this information had to be coming from the police erm you know information about the layout of the family home unless unless it was people who’d been in the family home where else was that information coming from “
James Mathews from sky news was in house on day of funeral. His interview with luke and corrine is still out there.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #219 on: March 20, 2021, 09:39:57 PM »
James Mathews from sky news was in house on day of funeral. His interview with luke and corrine is still out there.

Exactly Mrs S - as I pointed out here ⬇️

There were reporters inside the Mitchell’s house - on the day of [Name removed]’s funeral - invited in by Corrine Mitchell

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=67.msg458#msg458

What dates is Sandra Lean referring to?

And did James Matthews go into the Mitchell home with a team of people ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #220 on: March 20, 2021, 09:53:50 PM »
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16881794.luke-mitchell-interview-rather-stay-behind-bars-admit-guilt-murder-jodi-jones/

Has anyone asked the Mitchell’s or Sandra Lean to explain any of this?

2018

I was always bullied as a kid - by my teachers, other schoolkids. I was always taught never throw the first punch. I've always been blamed for things I didn't do. This situation is an escalated version of that.”


There were further references to suicide in/on Luke Mitchell’s school jotters

Mitchell wrote:


Source: https://expressdigest.com/murderer-luke-mitchell-in-fresh-bid-to-clear-his-name/

Luke Mitchell stated in 2018,

“The last time I was truly happy was with Jodi. I was always bullied by teachers and considered suicide”


Sandra Lean states to James English

There were no issues in his childhood there was a school report that he’d erm he’d been pulled up for throwing a missile at another student and his mum was called into the school it was a half Mars bar but again this was used after the event that’s about the only thing in his erm 

What about Luke Mitchell’s suicide idealisations ?

And what about this ⬇️

Why can’t I die?
Is there a purpose in my life?
If not, then suicide is my best option!


And what about the previous allegations of knife threats against females - like for example the one said to have occurred when his father Philip was present
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #221 on: March 20, 2021, 10:15:52 PM »
When Luke Mitchell made this statement to Rozlyn Little in 2018 he would have been around 30 years old

“The last time I was truly happy was with Jodi. I was always bullied by teachers and considered suicide”

Why does Sandra Lean and Corrine Mitchell continuously appear to ignore these alarm bells?

previous allegations of knife threats against females
Why can’t I die?
Is there a purpose in my life?
If not, then suicide is my best option!


Would Sandra Lean have ignored the suicide stuff if they were made by her own children?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #222 on: March 21, 2021, 12:16:04 AM »
James Mathews from sky news was in house on day of funeral. His interview with luke and corrine is still out there.

What’s also highly relevant regarding Luke Mitchell’s interview in September 2003 with James Matthews is this from the CoA judgement:

Para 55
Most of the publicity had occurred in the immediate aftermath of the death of the deceased. It was a matter of concession that, by around September 2003, the intensity of the coverage had very largely died down

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Para 54:
Furthermore, it ought to be recognised that a substantial part of the publicity which the case had attracted was based upon statements made by or on behalf of the appellant. The fact that some of the publicity had been generated in that way was relevant to the present issue. If some disadvantage was self-inflicted, the appellant could hardly complain of it.
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7
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Offline Rorschach

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #223 on: March 24, 2021, 11:50:58 PM »
These "live weekly updates" Sandra is doing on YouTube with a big smile on her face addressing viewers like they're her fans is making me quite nauseous. No one should be enjoying a murder this much.

Offline Paranoid Android

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #224 on: March 25, 2021, 12:53:20 AM »
These "live weekly updates" Sandra is doing on YouTube with a big smile on her face addressing viewers like they're her fans is making me quite nauseous. No one should be enjoying a murder this much.

Totally agree.