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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1665 on: February 13, 2023, 06:12:07 AM »

THREE teenage pals tell the court they spotted Mitchell on a road which passes the entrance to the path where Jodi died.

Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliot all say they saw him after Jodi is said to have left her home.

Another witness says she saw a youth who looked like Mitchell stepping out of view when she approached in her car.

School pal David High, 16, says that Mitchell called him at about 6.30pm on June 30 last year and invited him round.


Why did killer Luke Mitchell change his mind and phone David High back - who was already at the abbey - to tell him he would instead meet him at the abbey ?

And what exactly did killer Luke Mitchell tell the police about these events?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1666 on: February 13, 2023, 06:24:05 AM »
What innocence fraud pusher Sandra Lean stated/states in her 1st discredited book No Smoke (http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/08/copy-of-chapter-from-sandra-leans-1st-discredited-smoke-mirrors-book-promoting-the-innocence-fraud-phenomenon-of-actually-factually-guilty-killer-luke-mitchell/ ) is

Other witnesses identified a youth "very like" Luke at the Newbattle end of the path at around 6pm, yet others still described a "mystery man" following Jodi towards the Easthouses entrance to the path.

Luke was positively identified, by some schoolboys who knew him, sitting on a wall at the end of his street in Newbattle, at approximately 5.45pm, and again some 10 minutes later.


What were/are the name of these ‘schoolboys’ Sandra Lean ?

Mr Holburn, 18, a photography student, told the court he and his friends were cycling on Newbattle Road towards the Jewel and Esk College in the evening of Monday June 30.

He said they saw Mr Mitchell standing at an entrance to a driveway before Newbattle Abbey Crescent, where the accused lived. He said they would have cycled past at about 5.55pm or 6pm.

The witness said he saw a young man, whom he did not recognise, standing at a break in a wall. Mr Holburn asked his friends, who attend St David's High School in Dalkeith, who the young man was.

''What was the answer?'' he was asked in court. ''Luke Mitchell,'' the witness replied.
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And where did you get your timings from?

Jigsawman aka Sandra Lean

Timeline Monday June 30th 2003.

5.15pm Jodi is believed to have been murdered at this time
5.15pm The moped is propped against the wall at the V, but the riders are nowhere to be seen
5.30pm Luke leaves the house and walks to the end of the street
5.32pm Luke calls Jodis house, but the line is engaged
5.40pm Luke calls the house again this time Alan Ovens answers. He says he
told Luke Jodi had left to meet him. Luke doesnt remember exactly what was said.
5.40pm Judy and Alan leave the house to go to the cemetery immediately
following the phone call from Luke (therefore Joseph now has no alibi)
5.45 5.50 Three schoolboys see Luke sitting on a wall at the end of his street (they passed him twice, as one of them got a puncture in his bike tyre, and they had to double back.)
5.50 6.05 6 witnesses say they saw a youth hanging around on the Newbattle Road, between the end of Lukes street, and the entrance to the path (although none of them claims to have seen him at the entrance itself.) Luke says he wandered up the street a little way to Barondale Cottages, which is approximately halfway between the end of his street and the entrance to the path, to see if he could see Jodi coming. He told the police this before these witnesses came forward.
6.50-6.55pm Luke phones some male friends to see what they are doing, as Jodi still hasnt shown


Andrew Holburn said the time was 5.55pm or 6pm.

Where did you get 5.45-5.50 from Sandra?

And David High said that killer Luke Mitchell called him at about 6.30pm so why have you got the timings for this at 6.50-6.55pm?
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 06:30:32 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1667 on: February 13, 2023, 06:36:37 AM »
Jigsawman aka Sandra Lean

Timeline Monday June 30th 2003.

5.15pm Jodi is believed to have been murdered at this time
5.15pm The moped is propped against the wall at the V, but the riders are nowhere to be seen
5.30pm Luke leaves the house and walks to the end of the street
5.32pm Luke calls Jodis house, but the line is engaged
5.40pm Luke calls the house again this time Alan Ovens answers. He says he
told Luke Jodi had left to meet him. Luke doesnt remember exactly what was said.
5.40pm Judy and Alan leave the house to go to the cemetery immediately
following the phone call from Luke (therefore Joseph now has no alibi)
5.45 5.50 Three schoolboys see Luke sitting on a wall at the end of his street (they passed him twice, as one of them got a puncture in his bike tyre, and they had to double back.)
5.50 6.05 6 witnesses say they saw a youth hanging around on the Newbattle Road, between the end of Lukes street, and the entrance to the path (although none of them claims to have seen him at the entrance itself.) Luke says he wandered up the street a little way to Barondale Cottages, which is approximately halfway between the end of his street and the entrance to the path, to see if he could see Jodi coming. He told the police this before these witnesses came forward.
6.50-6.55pm Luke phones some male friends to see what they are doing, as Jodi still hasnt shown
7pm Luke phones his mother to tell her if Jodi comes to the house, he is in The Abbey, and to tell Jodi to come there.
9pm After hanging around the abbey for a couple of hours, the boys head for home. Luke goes up to his room and puts on a video of Red dwarf.


3 of those 6 witnesses are Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliot

So who are the 3 ‘schoolboys’ you claim saw killer Luke Mitchell ‘sitting on a wall’ at 5.45-5.50 Sandra Lean?

5.45 5.50 Three schoolboys see Luke sitting on a wall at the end of his street

Who are they ?
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 06:40:40 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1668 on: February 13, 2023, 06:43:01 AM »
3 of those 6 witnesses are Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliot

So who are the 3 ‘schoolboys’ you claim saw killer Luke Mitchell ‘sitting on a wall’ at 5.45-5.50 Sandra Lean?

5.45 5.50 Three schoolboys see Luke sitting on a wall at the end of his street

Who are they ?

And Grant Elliot tells the court that Mitchell was still standing at the same spot 20 minutes to half an hour later.

Wouldn’t that take the timings to 6.30pm around the time killer Luke Mitchell phoned David High?

Mr Holburn, 18, a photography student, told the court he and his friends were cycling on Newbattle Road towards the Jewel and Esk College in the evening of Monday June 30.

He said they saw Mr Mitchell standing at an entrance to a driveway before Newbattle Abbey Crescent, where the accused lived. He said they would have cycled past at about 5.55pm or 6pm.
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Because Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliott couldn’t have seen killer Luke Mitchell at 5.30pm because they were never in Newbattle abbey crescent!

THREE teenage pals tell the court they spotted Mitchell on a road which passes the entrance to the path where Jodi died.

“Photography student Andrew Holburn explains he and his two friends were cycling down Newbattle Road, Dalkeith, towards the Jewel and Esk College on Monday, June 30, last year when they saw a young man standing at the entrance to the Roan's Dyke path.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 06:51:02 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1669 on: February 13, 2023, 06:52:07 AM »
You’ve made this up Sandra Lean

5.45 5.50 Three schoolboys see Luke sitting on a wall at the end of his street

 *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1670 on: February 13, 2023, 06:55:13 AM »
Andrew Holburn, Dean Houston and Grant Elliott

This makes 3 more ‘star witnesses’
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1671 on: February 13, 2023, 07:17:30 AM »
I think it's all very well, one thing, that LM, a 14yr old may have, in the heat of the moment become so enraged he killed his girlfriend. Being able to plan the perfect cover up in the aftermath is something entirely different. "The police didn't bank on Luke being Luke though" - there is however no way that LM could have banked on the police being anything. Of the finer details in everything that would have been sought to confirm all that was said.

What did he need - An alibi, evident at this point that only his mother would perhaps suffice. No evident collaboration from SM. From the moment it was evident however that his mother would not suffice, SM's story changed.

Does it make sense, even after the change - simply no. That he had come downstairs, Luke was mashing tatties, had a conversation around the dinner, went back upstairs, then came down and collected his dinner, took it upstairs, ate it and left shortly after 5.30pm - CM did not arrive home until 5.15pm at the earliest, the dinner was not ready. Where is the time?

We know by Luke's account he could not have left any later really that 5.30pm. He claimed to have made the call to the Jones landline, whilst sitting on the wall at the entrance of the estate. This call was at 5.32pm.

Both brothers, irrespective of change in statements made it clear that neither saw the other around these times of leaving.

How could this possibly be? - SM could not have left earlier than LM and SM could not have failed to see Luke walking or sitting on the wall. There is only one entrance to Newbattle Abbey crescent. It is a straight road to the entrance from the house in which they stayed.

No one saw killer Luke Mitchell sitting on a wall because he wasn’t sitting on any wall after he’d committed his murder
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1672 on: February 13, 2023, 07:24:16 AM »
And this does work across the board, as we had with the bike at the break in the wall - morphed from "close to", to at and at the V - when the break can not be seen from anywhere other than directly beside it. And we know it was a motorist, and we know they were from BTH - and the author knows all of this, and it is morphed into something else, and used, even though she can not fail to know that it is categorically wrong!!

Do all the people choosing to help promote this guilty killer, his mother and Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud know exactly what the witness from Basic tool hire said about the bike?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1673 on: February 13, 2023, 07:38:10 AM »
And are all these people aware they are all choosing to support and promote fraud akin to organised crime ?

Sandra Lean is a con woman

She’s not an ‘ordinary person’ like she wants people to believe her to be

She bare face lies, cheats and schemes

“The narcissist can be a master of phony empathy. He (she) appears to take you in, understand what you are experiencing, and genuinely be able to put himself in your shoes.
These acts cause you to let your guard down; just when you think there is a genuine give-and-take in your relationship, he pulls a fast one on you-a “gotcha”- most often when you’re at a low point.
https://thenarcissisticlife.com/games-narcissists-play/

“The most dangerous culprits of gaslighting? Malignant narcissists, who, by default, use gaslighting as a strategy to undermine the perception of their victims in order to evade accountability for their abuse. These perpetrators can use gaslighting callously and sadistically because they lack the remorse, empathy, or conscience to have any limits when they terrorize you or covertly provoke you. Gaslighting by a malignant narcissist is covert murder with clean hands, allowing the perpetrator to get away with their mistreatment while depicting the victims as the abusers.

https://psychcentral.com/blog/recovering-narcissist/2019/03/7-gaslighting-phrases-malignant-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-translated
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1674 on: February 13, 2023, 07:53:50 AM »
““The most dangerous culprits of gaslighting? Malignant narcissists, who, by default, use gaslighting as a strategy to undermine the perception of their victims in order to evade accountability for their abuse.

Abusers Sandra Lean and Scott Forbes are intentionally re-victimising Jodi Jones loved ones

The pair of them have gaslighted some people into thinking someone else was responsible for killer Luke Mitchell’s murder

In reality the evidence - when viewed in its entirety - points to psychopathic and malignant narcissistic killer Luke Mitchell and Luke Mitchell only!
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 07:58:47 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1675 on: February 13, 2023, 08:11:03 AM »
Jigsawman aka Sandra Lean

Timeline Monday June 30th 2003.

5.15pm Jodi is believed to have been murdered at this time
5.15pm The moped is propped against the wall at the V, but the riders are nowhere to be seen
5.30pm Luke leaves the house and walks to the end of the street
5.32pm Luke calls Jodis house, but the line is engaged
5.40pm Luke calls the house again this time Alan Ovens answers. He says he
told Luke Jodi had left to meet him. Luke doesnt remember exactly what was said.


Yet according to liar Corinne Mitchell when she spoke to James English 5:40pm was the time she claimed her killer son Luke Mitchell left her house

Listen from around 04:12

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ysPeri0O4
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 08:14:13 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1676 on: February 13, 2023, 08:16:48 AM »
Yet according to liar Corinne Mitchell when she spoke to James English 5:40pm was the time she claimed her killer son Luke Mitchell left her house

Listen from around 04:12

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ysPeri0O4

Liar Corinne Mitchell even says the reason her killer son Luke Mitchell left at 5:40pm was ‘to sit at the end of our street’

04:18

But killer Luke Mitchell never sat at the end of Newbattle abbey crescent and was never seen sitting in Newbattle abbey crescent

This narrative has been concocted - it never happened
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 08:18:53 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1677 on: February 13, 2023, 08:22:24 AM »
Liar Corinne Mitchell even says the reason her killer son Luke Mitchell left at 5:40pm was ‘to sit at the end of our street’

04:18

But killer Luke Mitchell never sat at the end of Newbattle abbey crescent and was never seen sitting in Newbattle abbey crescent

This narrative has been concocted - it never happened

04:34 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ysPeri0O4

Liar Corinne Mitchell then goes on to tell James English

‘And at that time a whole lot of them were meeting over in the abbey’

Which is another barefaced lie

David High’s evidence was that at around 6:30pm killer Luke Mitchell phoned him and initially had invited him round to his house

Killer Luke Mitchell then phoned David High back to tell him he would meet him at the abbey
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1678 on: February 13, 2023, 08:27:35 AM »
04:34 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ysPeri0O4

Liar Corinne Mitchell then goes on to tell James English

‘And at that time a whole lot of them were meeting over in the abbey’

Which is another barefaced lie

David High’s evidence was that at around 6:30pm killer Luke Mitchell phoned him and initially had invited him round to his house

Killer Luke Mitchell then phoned David High back to tell him he would meet him at the abbey

Killer Luke Mitchell was 11 years of age when Corinne Mitchell says she got divorced - this is what she tells James English at the very beginning of the video

Luke Mitchell was 11 years of age when he apparently assaulted a young girl and pinned her to a tree
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1679 on: February 13, 2023, 08:31:43 AM »
Killer Luke Mitchell was 11 years of age when Corinne Mitchell says she got divorced - this is what she tells James English at the very beginning of the video

Luke Mitchell was 11 years of age when he apparently assaulted a young girl and pinned her to a tree

The video doesn’t start until around 01:25 and within less than a minute liar Corinne Mitchell has said to James English that her killer son Luke Mitchell “loved animals’

Why?

Why was this one of the first things she chooses to tell James English?

And why didn’t Corinne Mitchell mention the dog they had before Mia?

It’s also around this time - 02:15 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ysPeri0O4 - a photo of killer Luke Mitchell on a horse comes up on the screen

What about the dog they had before Mia?

And why is Corinne Mitchell so keen to say her killer son ‘loved animals’?

« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 08:34:56 AM by Nicholas »
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