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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1695 on: February 13, 2023, 01:16:29 PM »
You are a bare faced liar Sandra Lean!

And this book of yours is riddled with bare faced lies, concoctions, disinformation and misinformation
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/08/copy-of-chapter-from-sandra-leans-1st-discredited-smoke-mirrors-book-promoting-the-innocence-fraud-phenomenon-of-actually-factually-guilty-killer-luke-mitchell/

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Not unlike your fraudulent PhD thesis

Corinne Mitchell is another bare faced liar

Never-ending Lies From Compulsive Liar Corinne Mitchell (Part 84)
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/25/killer-luke-mitchell-neverending-lies-from-compulsive-liar-corinne-mitchell-part-84/

Listen to how easily Corinne Mitchell’s lies spill from her mouth
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04:34 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ysPeri0O4

Liar Corinne Mitchell then goes on to tell James English

‘And at that time a whole lot of them were meeting over in the abbey’

Which is another barefaced lie

David High’s evidence was that at around 6:30pm killer Luke Mitchell phoned him and initially had invited him round to his house

Killer Luke Mitchell then phoned David High back to tell him he would meet him at the abbey
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 01:19:09 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1696 on: February 13, 2023, 01:23:05 PM »
Never-ending Lies From Compulsive Liar Corinne Mitchell (Part 84)
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/25/killer-luke-mitchell-neverending-lies-from-compulsive-liar-corinne-mitchell-part-84/

Look at liar Sandra Lean’s double bind in the above blog - this is yet another of her ‘crazy making’ tactics

Ana Azaria states ‘this is a complicated one’ but in reality it isn’t!

Killer Luke Mitchell, his mother Corinne and Sandra Lean have all lied
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 01:28:33 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1697 on: February 13, 2023, 01:30:49 PM »
Look at liar Sandra Lean’s double bind in the above blog - this is yet another of her ‘crazy making’ tactics

Ana Azaria states ‘this is a complicated one’ but in reality it isn’t!

Killer Luke Mitchell, his mother Corinne and Sandra Lean have all lied

Pretend Criminologist Sandra Lean Doesn’t Tell A True Story & Never Has! (Part 86)
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/25/killer-luke-mitchell-guest-blog-pretend-criminologist-sandra-lean-doesnt-tell-a-true-story-never-has-part-86/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1698 on: February 13, 2023, 01:37:34 PM »
46:19 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxV-ekFFCQ

Sandra Lean your projections and ‘crazy making’ in this video is something else

Sharon even appears confused by your nonsense
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 01:42:36 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1699 on: February 13, 2023, 01:47:51 PM »
Pretend Criminologist Sandra Lean Doesn’t Tell A True Story & Never Has! (Part 86)
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/25/killer-luke-mitchell-guest-blog-pretend-criminologist-sandra-lean-doesnt-tell-a-true-story-never-has-part-86/

What type of person would buy their 15 year old son (who was meant to be traumatised 🙄) a knife for Christmas when their ‘girlfriend’ had been brutally murdered with one only a few months earlier?

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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1700 on: February 13, 2023, 01:48:36 PM »
Hi Nicolas, I would like to ask you a genuine question. I do not mean any offence I’m just curious. For many years you have been commenting on forums and working on websites dedicated to this case and others. You believe the correct person is in jail so why is it you commit so much of your time to this case adding multiple pages of comments, a lot of which seem more related to Sandra rather than Luke and the case itself. I honestly don’t understand why someone would spend all night multiple nights commenting by themselves on an internet forum. It’s almost as if you are trying to bombard the threads with so much nonsense it stops people looking into this site for information. Which is a real shame as I feel it is one of the first websites (away from social media) people would look to find info on the case and now after reading multiple pages of you just asking the same stuff over and over it has to put people off commenting or even reading the threads IMO.
I feel sorry that you feel you have to dedicate so much of your life and time to this when you believe the correct person is in jail. It just seems such a waste. I understand you and Sandra have a history over the Simon Hall case but sorry to say it does look a bit unhealthy the amount of time you spend trying to discredit her, if all you say about her is true she will do a good job of discrediting herself. Are you maybe worried that Sandra may accomplish her goal of getting a review of the case of ‘worse’ Luke getting out. If so I would kind of understand that motive to ensure that doesn’t happen. Or is it just that you are trying to make sure people know exactly who and what you think Sandra and Luke are? As I said I’m genuinely interested why you dedicate a lot of your time and life it seems to this? I totally understand if you don’t want to reply after all it’s non of my business, just wondering.
I’ve been looking into the case around 12 years I think. I always looked in from time to time over the years to see how things were going but seems it’s been all go since Sandra’s book and the documentary also the FB groups. I spend time looking into this case as I want to be convinced the right person is in jail. Still waiting for that to happen.

Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1701 on: February 13, 2023, 02:38:24 PM »
Hi Nicolas, I would like to ask you a genuine question. I do not mean any offence I’m just curious. For many years you have been commenting on forums and working on websites dedicated to this case and others. You believe the correct person is in jail so why is it you commit so much of your time to this case adding multiple pages of comments, a lot of which seem more related to Sandra rather than Luke and the case itself. I honestly don’t understand why someone would spend all night multiple nights commenting by themselves on an internet forum. It’s almost as if you are trying to bombard the threads with so much nonsense it stops people looking into this site for information. Which is a real shame as I feel it is one of the first websites (away from social media) people would look to find info on the case and now after reading multiple pages of you just asking the same stuff over and over it has to put people off commenting or even reading the threads IMO.
I feel sorry that you feel you have to dedicate so much of your life and time to this when you believe the correct person is in jail. It just seems such a waste. I understand you and Sandra have a history over the Simon Hall case but sorry to say it does look a bit unhealthy the amount of time you spend trying to discredit her, if all you say about her is true she will do a good job of discrediting herself. Are you maybe worried that Sandra may accomplish her goal of getting a review of the case of ‘worse’ Luke getting out. If so I would kind of understand that motive to ensure that doesn’t happen. Or is it just that you are trying to make sure people know exactly who and what you think Sandra and Luke are? As I said I’m genuinely interested why you dedicate a lot of your time and life it seems to this? I totally understand if you don’t want to reply after all it’s non of my business, just wondering.
I’ve been looking into the case around 12 years I think. I always looked in from time to time over the years to see how things were going but seems it’s been all go since Sandra’s book and the documentary also the FB groups. I spend time looking into this case as I want to be convinced the right person is in jail. Still waiting for that to happen.

Short answer-Innocence fraud. Lot more and many featured than SL - -

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1702 on: February 13, 2023, 03:13:50 PM »
Steph Donald
Ana Azaria Sandra Lean Did anyone find out about Point 4? I'm chatting to someone who insists Jodi was on holiday when her dad died and would really like to know as I don't have Sandra or Scott's books yet. Thanks for answering the other points, what a minefield.

Ana Azaria
Steph Donald According to Scott's book, Jodi ran out of the room (from the adult party), grabbing a large bottle of vodka in protest. It was her brother who found their father the next day - I haven't heard or come across any other information, I've checked both books, and that's the only information I've ever heard from Dr Sandra Lean too, so I'm not sure where the other person has got the info from 🤔


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Killer Luke Mitchell, Scott Forbes & Sandra Lean & How Easily They Lie To Cause Harm To Other Human Life (Part 138)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/30/liars-abusers-killer-luke-mitchell-scott-forbes-sandra-lean-how-easily-they-lie-to-cause-harm-to-other-human-life-part-138/
« Last Edit: February 13, 2023, 03:18:15 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1703 on: February 13, 2023, 04:41:06 PM »
Short answer-Innocence fraud. Lot more and many featured than SL - -

Yeah I did say ‘and others’ but I don’t know the time spent on the others or who they might all be, it’s this case and time spent I’m curious about. What is the drive? The last 9 pages is just Nicholas rambling on. I just think it disrupts the forum and wonder if that’s the point to it all. Only reason I can see someone not related to the case in anyway spending so much time and effort to discredit someone either has a serious grudge and some worrying obsession (which is not what I thought this forum is for and not sure why admin would allow that) or someone that is genuinely worried Sandra may actually get somewhere with Luke’s case. I can kind of understand the latter. Like I said just curious to the motivation for spending so much time and effort, for what?  He is in the jail.

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1704 on: February 13, 2023, 05:29:34 PM »
Did killer Luke Mitchell, if he was on his bike, move his other bike before Leonard Kelly rode down the path?

Or was Leonard Kelly in shock following what he heard behind the wall and missed seeing a bike ?

What is your theory regarding bikes on the night? Do you think LM used one and chained it up then returned after 9pm to collect?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1705 on: February 13, 2023, 05:40:01 PM »
Short answer-Innocence fraud. Lot more and many featured than SL - -

I think for you it’s a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. This isn’t about innocence fraud, you know it and I know it and someone who was truly concerned with Nicholas’s mental well-being wouldn’t be pretending that her behaviour is either normal or rational.

As Bullseye said this must be putting off new members from engaging on the forum and if she truly does want to get information out there that seems to be a very odd strategy.

Either way I think that it’s time for moderation.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1706 on: February 13, 2023, 05:45:27 PM »
What is your theory regarding bikes on the night? Do you think LM used one and chained it up then returned after 9pm to collect?

Now that would have been handy, wouldn’t it. Problem is that there’s not an ounce of evidence that that happened or are we simply playing the ‘this could have happened’ game?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1707 on: February 13, 2023, 07:21:32 PM »
Yeah I did say ‘and others’ but I don’t know the time spent on the others or who they might all be, it’s this case and time spent I’m curious about. What is the drive? The last 9 pages is just Nicholas rambling on. I just think it disrupts the forum and wonder if that’s the point to it all. Only reason I can see someone not related to the case in anyway spending so much time and effort to discredit someone either has a serious grudge and some worrying obsession (which is not what I thought this forum is for and not sure why admin would allow that) or someone that is genuinely worried Sandra may actually get somewhere with Luke’s case. I can kind of understand the latter. Like I said just curious to the motivation for spending so much time and effort, for what?  He is in the jail.

Are you going to challenge anything she said, or just attack her instead ( a common theme amongst those that support Luke)

For the record, Nic does fantastic work, is very knowledgeable on this case, i'm for one grateful for her effort and drive for exposing the innocent fraud surrounding this case. I understand people want to silent Nic, crying to moderators to control her content, it just goes to show what fantastic work she does. 

BTW, i'm still waiting on that cite for medical records, attacks on family members that you claimed a week or so back. Did you not also claim you have been at this for a few years and still never knew whats what, now you're claiming to have been at it for 12 years, interesting  *%87

Offline Bullseye

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1708 on: February 13, 2023, 07:41:10 PM »
Are you going to challenge anything she said, or just attack her instead ( a common theme amongst those that support Luke)

For the record, Nic does fantastic work, is very knowledgeable on this case, i'm for one grateful for her effort and drive for exposing the innocent fraud surrounding this case. I understand people want to silent Nic, crying to moderators to control her content, it just goes to show what fantastic work she does. 

BTW, i'm still waiting on that cite for medical records, attacks on family members that you claimed a week or so back. Did you not also claim you have been at this for a few years and still never knew whats what, now you're claiming to have been at it for 12 years, interesting  *%87

I was not attacking anyone it was a genuine question. She is very knowledgeable on the case I have never said she wasn’t. I don’t know why you are trying to make out otherwise. As I said I was not looking to offend.

I already gave you the cite from the medical records etc I’m not sure what else you expect from me. I’m not going to make something up, or get in the same arguments with you again. It was from Scott and Sandra’s books and interviews.

I have been looking into the case on and off since the wap days not sure what year that was closed down. I have always used the name bullseye so if you were on wap you may or may not remember me. Not sure what that matters unless you are trying to ‘catch me out’ somehow. I have only ever said things as I see them.

Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1709 on: February 13, 2023, 07:59:36 PM »
Haven't we all got a little bit of oddity about us Faith/Bullseye, some more so than others - These boring alter ego's however projecting their own personal involvement and grievances upon others, such as Steph clearly being your enemy in whichever form you use at any given time. In the third person mostly.

The predictive tactics to try and prevent others from being listened to, Bullseye playing that alter ego role too. Both, three or even four at points need to be taken that rafter out your own eye/s first.

No one is my enemy, again that projection, that predictive personal involvement you have - Boring. If I see Steph expose lies then good on her, she certainly has been personally involved in innocence fraud, and I sure as hell know the lies and manipulation that are being put out in the name of truth - Nothing near the truth, and that is fact. Pull your big underpants up now and stop being aggrieved when others such as Steph are getting attention. - For isn't it that which truly aggrieves you, your enemy getting attention, attacking her personally in ones many ego's, because she is full on exposing how innocence fraud works having been involved personally with your ego's in it.

As I said to Mr Forbes also, every time he attacks her, he is exposing how his fellow enabler is also rife where innocence fraud is concerned - In ones many alias's

These predictive ego's with their different roles to play, such as a sitter on the fence - Mighty big windows, the transparency could not be more see through. The same ego's, the same tactics that I have read on repeat when studying this case. The feeder, the disrupter, the raise this point and the answerer - Yawn!