"Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean

[Nicholas]

I read on a YT comments section in conjunction with one of SF's podcasts that LM's dad Philip said his son owned a parka jacket prior to the murder. The same poster also said  that Philip was at the gig with Luke and he had the exact same parka jacket as his son. I would imagine PM was called as a witness to court, and probably gave evidence about LM's missing jacket. At the very least, if my memory serves, PM gave a statement to police regarding his son's jacket.

Philip Mitchell’s house was searched on 14th August 2003.

Were any of his jackets seized by police?

Or any photographs?

Maybe with him and his killer son Luke Mitchell at a Ramage Inc concert?

[faithlilly]

I read on a YT comments section in conjunction with one of SF's podcasts that LM's dad Philip said his son owned a parka jacket prior to the murder. The same poster also said  that Philip was at the gig with Luke and he had the exact same parka jacket as his son. I would imagine PM was called as a witness to court, and probably gave evidence about LM's missing jacket. At the very least, if my memory serves, PM gave a statement to police regarding his son's jacket.

If PM did verify in court that his son had a parka jacket before Jodi’s murder that would be incredibly powerful evidence against Luke so why wasn’t it reported in the media? Was Shane asked the same question? What was his answer and why wasn’t that also reported?

[faithlilly]

That gig on the 13th of June, and as has been confirmed, not one but two people who actually recorded it - Front of stage far right in front. LM with [Name removed] by his side, he is wearing that army style, khaki jacket! - Perhaps now with all falling flat yet again, that footage may very well make its way into the public domain, fully!

I think it would be safe to assume that the alleged footage was not available to the prosecution or they would have used it and not one frame of it has ever made it into the public domain since. The footage, of course, would have been snapped up by the tabloids, harvesting the owners a pretty penny yet that doesn’t seem to have been a sufficient temptation to the elusive film producers either. There is no reason legally why the footage is not in the public domain so what’s the hold-up?

Almost twenty years after the footage was allegedly taken and not a scintilla of proof has emerged that it actually exists. Look forward though to someone proving me wrong.

[Nicholas]

Did sadistic killer Luke Mitchell, his parents Philip Mitchell and Corinne Mitchell or Sandra Lean ever comment publicly  on Brandon Flowers song lyrics

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4524661.stm

“Donald Findlay QC, who is preparing Mitchell's appeal, said that while there are no legal ramifications over the band performing the song he personally found it "highly distasteful

‘A source close to the Jones family told the Sunday Herald:

"The nightmare scenario is that someone close to Jodi would unexpectedly hear the song on the radio.

"Can you imagine hearing a song about your child who has been killed? It seems dreadful."

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12491725.killers-singer-apologises-for-jodi-jones-track-frontman-flowers-sorry-for-causing-further-hurt/

[Mr Apples]

If PM did verify in court that his son had a parka jacket before Jodi’s murder that would be incredibly powerful evidence against Luke so why wasn’t it reported in the media? Was Shane asked the same question? What was his answer and why wasn’t that also reported?

We've already been through this. I'm not willing to go through it all again. Anyway, it seems to me that you're so entrenched that LM never did this that I'm not even sure it would make a difference if this footage was shown to you, or a photograph.

[faithlilly]

We've already been through this. I'm not willing to go through it all again. Anyway, it seems to me that you're so entrenched that LM never did this that I'm not even sure it would make a difference if this footage was shown to you, or a photograph.

It appears to me that you simply want to avoid the hard questions. PM or SM verifying under oath that Luke did indeed own a parka would be a huge leap in proving Luke guilty…jeez it would even make me think again… yet not a whisper of it in the media. Why do you think that is?

Likewise the footage. I suppose I’m just picky about needing evidence from a named source rather than some anonymous bod on a forum if I’m going to help condemn a young boy to a life sentence. Not your fault that you’re not a rigorous.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It appears to me that you simply want to avoid the hard questions. PM or SM verifying under oath that Luke did indeed own a parka would be a huge leap in proving Luke guilty…jeez it would even make me think again… yet not a whisper of it in the media. Why do you think that is?

Likewise the footage. I suppose I’m just picky about needing evidence from a named source rather than some anonymous bod on a forum if I’m going to help condemn a young boy to a life sentence. Not your fault that you’re not a rigorous.

What you don’t seem to understand is that there is no need by the media to try and convince anyone that LM is guilty.  The trial, the jury and the verdict achieved that.  The media don’t need to pick over the minutiae of evidence just to try and  convince a few loonys on the internet.  It’s already done and dusted.

[Nicholas]

If PM did verify in court that his son had a parka jacket before Jodi’s murder that would be incredibly powerful evidence against Luke so why wasn’t it reported in the media? Was Shane asked the same question? What was his answer and why wasn’t that also reported?

With a great deal of the focus on sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s mother Corinne Mitchell and brother Shane Mitchell’s evidence around their ‘alibi’ evidence

And the fact the killer didn’t live with his father Philip Mitchell at the time of his murder

Reporters may have decided to miss court proceedings on the day Philip Mitchell gave evidence - presuming Philip gave evidence

Or reporters could have missed Philip Mitchell’s evidence altogether - presuming he gave evidence

There’s often a tonne of relevant evidence missed by some of these court reporters

[Nicholas]

How did sadistic killer Luke Mitchell get to Livingston when he went to visit his father Philip Mitchell ?

Did he catch the bus or take a trian or a taxi?

Apparently it’s an approx 23 minute car journey

And around Christmas 2002 Robert Gilhooly saw sadistic killer Luke Mitchell with Kimberly Thomson - presumably this was in Livingston

Suggesting Philip Mitchell also met Kim T

What did Philip Mitchell tell the police about Kim T?

[Nicholas]

Suspect Miss Coutts was who killer Luke Mitchell first attacked with a knife when he was 12 years of age


Innocence Fraud: Killer Luke Mitchell & [moderated] Sandra Lean’s Psychological Manipulation - ‘Boiling You Like A Frog’ (Part 168)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/26/innocence-fraud-killer-luke-mitchell-confidence-trickster-sandra-leans-psychological-manipulation-boiling-you-like-a-frog-part-168/

And what did Phil Mitchell say about Ashley Coutts?

[faithlilly]

With a great deal of the focus on sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s mother Corinne Mitchell and brother Shane Mitchell’s evidence around their ‘alibi’ evidence

And the fact the killer didn’t live with his father Philip Mitchell at the time of his murder

Reporters may have decided to miss court proceedings on the day Philip Mitchell gave evidence - presuming Philip gave evidence

Or reporters could have missed Philip Mitchell’s evidence altogether - presuming he gave evidence

There’s often a tonne of relevant evidence missed by some of these court reporters

A dynamite piece of testimony wasn’t reported in the media? Behave.

[Nicholas]

And how did psycho killer Luke Mitchell get to army cadets in Bonnyrigg?

[Nicholas]

A dynamite piece of testimony wasn’t reported in the media? Behave.

There are numerous examples of ‘dynamite’ pieces of testimony that aren’t reported on in other cases

[Nicholas]

And how did psycho killer Luke Mitchell get to army cadets in Bonnyrigg?

Apparently it takes approximate 1 hour and 5 minutes to walk from Mayfield to Bonnyrigg

35 minutes on the bus

And 9 minutes in a car

Did psycho killer Luke Mitchell have a bus pass?

How did he and Kimberly Thomson get to Livingston from Mayfield over Christmas/New Year 2002?

[Nicholas]

How did sadistic killer Luke Mitchell get to Livingston when he went to visit his father Philip Mitchell ?

Did he catch the bus or take a trian or a taxi?

Apparently it’s an approx 23 minute car journey

And around Christmas 2002 Robert Gilhooly saw sadistic killer Luke Mitchell with Kimberly Thomson - presumably this was in Livingston

Suggesting Philip Mitchell also met Kim T

What did Philip Mitchell tell the police about Kim T?

“MURDER accused Luke Mitchell was two-timing Jodi Jones with a girl who looked 'almost identical' to her, a court was told yesterday.

One of Mitchell's friends had met the other girl. Mitchell spoke very highly of her, it was claimed.

But when the pal, Robert Gilhooly, 17, was later shown a picture of the girl, he thought it was Jodi.

The jury at the High Court in Edinburgh were shown pictures of the two girls.

They also heard that Mitchell, 16, who denies murdering Jodi, was once caught with a knife which, it was claimed, was made for one purpose - killing.

Robert, 17, of Livingston, West Lothian, said Mitchell used to visit his father in the town at weekends and he became friendly with him.

He was then shown two knives which he recalled having seen in Mitchell's possession.