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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2685 on: April 09, 2023, 12:42:53 AM »
This sounds plausible - like witnesses discussing photographs of maps

What witnesses discussed photographs of maps? I don’t recall any media article naming any of the witnesses discussing maps

I also don’t recall any reporters reporting on the replica wall - which was no doubt used to demonstrate where the various witnesses were

“ They will walk along Roan's Dyke path. The next day the jury will hear evidence in a courtroom where a replica of a wall near the path has been erected. ”

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL%3A+A+strangling+sort+of+sound%2Ca+human.+It+sounded...-a0125808235
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2686 on: April 09, 2023, 12:48:35 AM »
“ They will walk along Roan's Dyke path. The next day the jury will hear evidence in a courtroom where a replica of a wall near the path has been erected. ”

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL%3A+A+strangling+sort+of+sound%2Ca+human.+It+sounded...-a0125808235

Wasn’t the wall built so that witnesses could show the jury where they were when killer Luke Mitchell shouted out and pretended to them that he’d ‘found something’

 *&^^&

Where are these articles?

I’ve read nothing on the replica wall and of Donald Findlay or Alan Turnbull, for example, demonstrating to the jury where the various witnesses were standing etc

« Last Edit: April 09, 2023, 12:50:54 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2687 on: April 09, 2023, 12:50:34 AM »
Wasn’t the wall built so that witnesses could show the jury where they were when killer Luke Mitchell shouted out and pretended to them that he’d ‘found something’

 *&^^&

Where are these articles?

And here

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bleak-trip-to-footpath-where-jodi-was-found-h3hvnx225d7

“ The trial continues today in a specially constructed courtroom in Edinburgh’s Parliament House where a replica of the 6ft wall at Roan’s Dyke has been built.”
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2688 on: April 09, 2023, 12:50:52 AM »
Proof is in the absence of it ever being mentioned.

Interesting that you’ve never shared the comments you claim were posted.

There were restrictions on what could be publicly reported in this case due to the young age of some of the witnesses. Also, and as has been pointed out several times now, not every single detail of this case was reported on, for various reasons (also pointed out several times previously).

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2689 on: April 09, 2023, 12:53:01 AM »
And here

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bleak-trip-to-footpath-where-jodi-was-found-h3hvnx225d7

“ The trial continues today in a specially constructed courtroom in Edinburgh’s Parliament House where a replica of the 6ft wall at Roan’s Dyke has been built.”

Yep

But nothing of Donald Findlay or Alan Turnbull, for example, demonstrating to the jury where the various witnesses were standing etc
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2690 on: April 09, 2023, 12:55:06 AM »
There were restrictions on what could be publicly reported in this case due to the young age of some of the witnesses. Also, and as has been pointed out several times now, not every single detail of this case was reported on, for various reasons (also pointed out several times previously).

To report verbatim on each day of the trial, reporters would have required an entire newspaper

I’ve only ever read brief quotes from witnesses here and there

Very little was reported on from the trial
« Last Edit: April 09, 2023, 12:57:40 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2691 on: April 09, 2023, 12:57:40 AM »
Yep

But nothing of Donald Findlay or Alan Turnbull, for example, demonstrating to the jury where the various witnesses were standing etc

But we know of the replica wall because it was an important event in the trial and was mentioned in the media.

Now show me one, just one, mention in the media of a photograph of Luke with a parka jacket on?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2692 on: April 09, 2023, 01:01:00 AM »
Where are the photographs of the maps?

The other knives - two silver ones - and possibly other knives(?)

The photo of Kimberly Thomson

I also don’t recall any media articles discussing torches

When was Corinne Mitchell or Shane Mitchell asked about the torch?

Or prawns ?

I’ve never seen a single article mention Corinne’s alleged prawns

Or these photographs

The jury of eight men and seven women are shown photographs taken on and around the Roan's Dyke pathway in Dalkeith, where Jodi's body was discovered.

This 👇was published - but not these 👆🏽

Among the pictures is one of a tree with the initials 'LM' carved above the initials '[Name removed]'.

And there’s a reference to ‘a map’ but it doesn’t say what Mr Hamilton said about this

Mr Hamilton, 36, is asked to help the jury understand the geography of Dalkeith by pointing to locations on a large map.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2693 on: April 09, 2023, 01:05:51 AM »
There were restrictions on what could be publicly reported in this case due to the young age of some of the witnesses. Also, and as has been pointed out several times now, not every single detail of this case was reported on, for various reasons (also pointed out several times previously).

There were restrictions? If indeed that is true, and I don’t believe there was, only the children’s names would have been withheld not the testimony they gave.

I’m sure you took screenshots of your conversation with the individual who gave you the information about the photograph. Care to share?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2694 on: April 09, 2023, 01:08:11 AM »
Or these photographs

The jury of eight men and seven women are shown photographs taken on and around the Roan's Dyke pathway in Dalkeith, where Jodi's body was discovered.

This 👇was published - but not these 👆🏽

Among the pictures is one of a tree with the initials 'LM' carved above the initials '[Name removed]'.



And there’s a reference to ‘a map’ but it doesn’t say what Mr Hamilton said about this

Mr Hamilton, 36, is asked to help the jury understand the geography of Dalkeith by pointing to locations on a large map.


The exhibits had to be described ( as above) you posted the link verifying this yourself. So why no description of the photo of Luke in the parka?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2695 on: April 09, 2023, 01:16:11 AM »
There were restrictions? If indeed that is true, and I don’t believe there was, only the children’s names would have been withheld not the testimony they gave.

[moderated] Sandra Lean - On How To Say There Were Reporting Restrictions Without Saying There Were Reporting Restrictions (Part 164)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/19/killer-luke-mitchell-cofidence-trickster-sandra-lean-on-how-to-say-there-were-reporting-restrictions-without-saying-there-were-reporting-restrictions-part-163/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2696 on: April 09, 2023, 01:20:59 AM »
The exhibits had to be described ( as above) you posted the link verifying this yourself. So why no description of the photo of Luke in the parka?

Why no description of Matthew Muraska referring to the time he saw killer Luke Mitchell in his missing parka at Army cadets?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2697 on: April 09, 2023, 01:32:07 AM »
Why no description of Matthew Muraska referring to the time he saw killer Luke Mitchell in his missing parka at Army cadets?

Turnbull mentioned it, no description needed. That’s how we know what Muraska claimed. Where did he mention the parka photograph?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2698 on: April 09, 2023, 01:40:26 AM »
[moderated] Sandra Lean - On How To Say There Were Reporting Restrictions Without Saying There Were Reporting Restrictions (Part 164)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/19/killer-luke-mitchell-cofidence-trickster-sandra-lean-on-how-to-say-there-were-reporting-restrictions-without-saying-there-were-reporting-restrictions-part-163/

From your link:

“ But an article from the Herald again contradicts what Sandra Lean stated. Keith Campbell was a 14 year old witness at the time of the trial – as can be read here.”

So there were no reporting restrictions or Keith Campbell wouldn’t have been identified due to his age.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2699 on: April 09, 2023, 05:32:36 PM »
Ana Azaria still doesn’t realise the witness who claimed to have seen the moped at V break in the wall was mistaken


Ana Azaria
The Moped Boys statements
*Disclaimer - the point of this post is not to suggest that anyone is guilty, but to highlight the discrepancies in the investigation and the way that Luke was treated in comparison. Was it fair?

The moped was destroyed in the days after the murder and could not be forensically tested.



The name that the public kept referring to - by the 3rd July 2003 - when contacting the police was killer Luke Mitchell’s


Who confirmed the moped was destroyed days later? Before SF deleted all his You Tube comments there was an interesting comment from a local scrap expert saying that the bike would have remained in the local scrapyard for weeks or months before it was moved on to the main Lothian metal dealer. Even if it was squashed that day it would still have been on the premises to be tested if required.

SF's other theory is this erratic moped that had to be pushed most of the time was used to ferry the blood soaked killer away from the V break / crime scene and also maintains the killing took place elsewhere.