"Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean

[Nicholas]

And now I’ve just read this

‘Even laying aside questions of guilt or innocence (as they are under- stood in layman’s terms) in these cases, it would have been clear to a five-year-old child that these convictions were not safe, in the legal context.
~ Sandra Lean (IB p.23)


 

Flipping heck

 

Sandra

 

[Bullseye]

Nicolas I’m not sure what it matters if Sandra said she was a carer back then or not. Can you clarify what the issue is here if she was?
Also Sandra has said a few times how she got in contact,  im sure Luke mum had heard Sandra supported Luke and was not convinced he was guilty so got in touch. But again not sure what difference that makes to Luke’s case?

[Nicholas]

Nicolas I’m not sure what it matters if Sandra said she was a carer back then or not. Can you clarify what the issue is here if she was?

Not at the mo John - all will be revealed though

[Nicholas]

Also Sandra has said a few times how she got in contact,  im sure Luke mum had heard Sandra supported Luke and was not convinced he was guilty so got in touch. But again not sure what difference that makes to Luke’s case?

I’m aware of what Sandra has told those people she is duping about ‘contact’

I am also aware Sandra has lied about this

[Nicholas]

Ana Azaria
Gary Peden Yes, they never gave any reason for the time being so specific - other than that it was the only time that Luke didn't have an alibi (his mum got home from work around 5.15pm). 5.15pm is the time that the moped was seen at the v break. If the suggestion was that Luke commited the murder after the moped boys left (they couldn't say how long they'd stayed), then that makes the time frame even shorter and even less possible for it to have been Luke.

They did - phone records

The moped wasn’t seen at the V in the wall at 5:15pm

If a witness claimed this - they were wrong or lying

Leonard Kelly said he heard the moped in the background - ergo not near the wall when he cycled through on his bike

[Kenmair]

Does she have an authoritative stance? I don’t seem to have picked up on that. For me her ‘authority’ derives from her vast knowledge of this case…knowledge that, outwith the prosecution and defence legal teams, no one has. You do seem rather more interested in the attention Dr Lean receives and less about the case itself. Does she make you feel insecure?

‘Status anxiety’….oh do please stop it with the cod psychology.

Why would I feel insecure given SL's track record of 0% successful outcomes in her cases? She may have a vast knowledge of the case but she has used this to hound the victim's family and various innocent others by implicating them in a child's murder and whipping up attention on social media for her own interests/ego.

Facts, not psychology, cod or otherwise.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why would I feel insecure given SL's track record of 0% successful outcomes in her cases? She may have a vast knowledge of the case but she has used this to hound the victim's family and various innocent others by implicating them in a child's murder and whipping up attention on social media for her own interests/ego.

Facts, not psychology, cod or otherwise.

Quite.  Most conspiracy theorists worth their salt have vast knowledge of the events they claim never happened or happened differently to the accepted narrative, eg 9/11, the Holocaust, climate change  etc, it’s just that they cherry pick from their vast knowledge to suit their agenda and ignore inconvenient truths.

[Nicholas]

She may have a vast knowledge of the case

Sandra Lean was working as a self employed carer and did not attend killer Luke Mitchell’s 42 day trial

If she has any ‘vast knowledge’ it’s related to innocence fraud tactics, not the 42 days worth of facts and evidence that convicted the killer

 

[Nicholas]

She may have a vast knowledge of the case but she has used this to hound the victim's family and various innocent others by implicating them in a child's murder and whipping up attention on social media for her own interests/ego.

What we’ve seen Sandra Lean do is only the half of it

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
Chief Constable Iain Livingstone talking about events in 2003, while he was with Lothian and Borders Police.
Sam Poling says, "You were [demoted] and suspended, am I right?
His response? No, you're not right - I was suspended THEN [demoted].
So she WAS right - he was merely quibbling about the order of events.

Sandra Lean
"The public wants a strong, professional leader with integrity in their chief constable. Is that you?"
Surely the ONLY answer to that question should have been "yes."

Sandra Lean
Danielle Bbarclay Did you hear his answer???? I think I could...eh...discharge the responsibilities of the job ... one of my main strengths is ...." Nobody asked if he could "discharge" anything, or what his strengths were - he was asked, was he a strong, professional leader with integrity. Straightforward question, should have had a straightforward answer!!!!

Danielle Bbarclay
Sandra Lean  yup!  Michael shouted "It's a yes...why are you stuttering. ..it should be yes" aaaaahhaaaaha.  It's not funny but can't help be so shocked at state of that response

Sandra Lean
Danielle Bbarclay We'll give you a clue, Iain, it starts with a Y and ends with ES - jeez, how difficult can it be???


Iain Livingstone didn’t convict sadistic killer Luke Mitchell Sandra

Events around 2003/04

What were you up to Sandra?

[faithlilly]

Why would I feel insecure given SL's track record of 0% successful outcomes in her cases? She may have a vast knowledge of the case but she has used this to hound the victim's family and various innocent others by implicating them in a child's murder and whipping up attention on social media for her own interests/ego.

Facts, not psychology, cod or otherwise.

Yep…insecure.

[Nicholas]

To my dad, Sandy King.

and to Skooby, Chi, Caz and Simon,

for helping me find the strength and courage to fly.

‘Skooby’ and ‘Chi’ are her daughters - ‘Caz’ is/was(?) a friend and according to Sandra Lean - she thought ‘Simon’ - one of her former partners - to be a ‘psychopath’

Caz is/was Carol - former sister in law = Carol Wyse

Sandra Lean had an affair with her first husbands (Carol’s brother) best friend - who she went on to marry

So were any of the alleged events Sandra Lean has referred to over the years, linked back to people finding out about her cheating on her first husband?

“I walked out of a local shop and someone spat in my face. Another spat on my jacket. ~ Sandra Lean (p.21 IB)

[Kenmair]

Yep…insecure.

You are ignoring this user.

You can keep supporting the beast but at least I won't see it from now on.

[faithlilly]

Caz is/was Carol - former sister in law = Carol Wyse

Sandra Lean had an affair with her first husbands (Carol’s brother) best friend - who she went on to marry

So were any of the alleged events Sandra Lean has referred to over the years, linked back to people finding out about her cheating on her first husband?

“I walked out of a local shop and someone spat in my face. Another spat on my jacket. ~ Sandra Lean (p.21 IB)

At least she didn’t say she loved her husband AFTER she found out that he was the murderer of of an elderly woman.

That’s low.

[Nicholas]

“If I’d been successful in my campaigning and advocacy, Luke Mitchell would have been freed. If there had been the slightest suspicion in my mind that he could have done to Jodi what was done to her, why on earth would I want him free in the very community where my children lived their lives?

In early 2014 you said you’d been duped Sandra - by sadistic killer Luke Mitchell and his ‘alcoholic’ mother Corinne Mitchell !

And some mothers choose to put their own needs before their children’s Sandra

What was your mother like?