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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4950 on: December 01, 2023, 07:14:12 PM »
As you and many others know, she has a long history of playing the victim.

My advice to those that are drawn in by these pity ploys. Step back and observe. Don't get pulled into the rabbit hole.

Unfortunately most of Luke's Army aren't blessed with the ability to spot a scammer when they see one and have fallen head first for it. There are some vulnerable and impressionable people being duped as happens in many cults. People religiously campaigning for a killer on the flimsiest of pretexts by the local tarot card reader.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4951 on: December 01, 2023, 07:15:54 PM »
As you and many others know, she has a long history of playing the victim.

My advice to those that are drawn in by these pity ploys. Step back and observe. Don't get pulled into the rabbit hole.

It’s a shame James Easten doesn’t appear to have the wherewithal to advise his family member/s to do the same

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4952 on: December 01, 2023, 07:29:52 PM »
James Easton
Sandra Lean Thank you for taking time to share... the exact same thoughts. 🙂
I am 65 now and Saturday was first time back in birthplace Glasgow for some 20 years - Buchanan Street had somewhat changed since then!
Went for a quick walk around and suddenly got my bearings, realising that Green's Playhouse (later 'Apollo'), was just around the corner.
Thought has since occurred, that I was there with school mates, all of us around 14 years old, at a Black Sabbath concert.
I remember us joining in relentless chanting for the namesake song
Come to the Sabbath
Come to the Sabbath
Come to the Sabbath
Satan's There
How ironic... so close from where I stood, listening to Luke's heartfelt message of gratitude on Saturday



You were listening to a calculated, callous, cruel, cold blooded psychopatgic murderer James Easton, who hasn’t showed an ounce of remorse for what he did on the 30th June 2003
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4953 on: December 01, 2023, 07:40:59 PM »
James Easton
Sandra Lean Thank you for taking time to share... the exact same thoughts. 🙂
I am 65 now and Saturday was first time back in birthplace Glasgow for some 20 years - Buchanan Street had somewhat changed since then!
Went for a quick walk around and suddenly got my bearings, realising that Green's Playhouse (later 'Apollo'), was just around the corner.
Thought has since occurred, that I was there with school mates, all of us around 14 years old, at a Black Sabbath concert.
I remember us joining in relentless chanting for the namesake song
Come to the Sabbath
Come to the Sabbath
Come to the Sabbath
Satan's There
How ironic... so close from where I stood, listening to Luke's heartfelt message of gratitude on Saturday.
Never, of course, got to see Marilyn Manson in those days, although at same venue, did watch Alice Cooper 'hang' himself, in a macabre stage act, if that counts.
So far as I am aware, like myself, none of my school friends resultantly committed a psychopathic murder.
Just afterthoughts, with regards to the entire perspective and context of how significant that young teenager, Satanic fixation element was championed to the jury and perhaps, decisively, proved persuasive enough to swing a majority verdict.


What was it you stated James Easton

As someone with over 20 years of experience in various, detailed, historical research undertakings and often resulting in major new findings, publicised world-wide, I understand the importance of original case evidence” ~ James Easton

 *&^^&

It sounds like everything you’ve ever “publicised world-wide” requires investigation



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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4954 on: December 01, 2023, 08:16:57 PM »
When you’ve found some courage James Easton

Come back to the

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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4955 on: December 01, 2023, 08:18:35 PM »
How many apply to Lean's Army?

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Offline Guiltyascharged

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4956 on: December 01, 2023, 09:27:04 PM »
When you’ve found some courage James Easton

Come back to the

You once posted on the wap forum - at times unpleasant things in support of luke mitchell. In time your opinion changed! Similar to those posting now? Like you they've worked with dr lean and realised all is not what it seems? They've spotted her lies, in time who knows?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4957 on: December 01, 2023, 09:37:48 PM »
You once posted on the wap forum - at times unpleasant things in support of luke mitchell

How did I do that if I didn’t know anything back then about the sadistic, psychopathic murderer Luke Mitchell’s case?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4958 on: December 01, 2023, 09:39:41 PM »
Like you they've worked with dr lean and realised all is not what it seems?

I’ve never worked with Sandra Lean either
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4959 on: December 01, 2023, 09:46:06 PM »
You once posted on the wap forum - at times unpleasant things in support of luke mitchell.

You sound like you have a poor memory

Baby killer Billy Middleton, Sandra Lean’s former boyfriend, banned me from his and Lean’s WAP forum
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Offline Guiltyascharged

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4960 on: December 01, 2023, 09:57:57 PM »
I remember reading those forums. You were very friendly with dr lean. You and john both posted alot in support of luke mitchell and in many ways similar to some of those posting in support now. Times have changed, its fair to say from your experience of dr lean you know what shes like now, hence your change of opinion. Its starting to click for others now too? Ive no wish to argue this with you mate! Opinions change with expeirence?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4961 on: December 01, 2023, 10:02:11 PM »
I remember reading those forums. You were very friendly with dr lean.

I first met Sandra Lean in a place called Bury St Edmunds - it was the 3rd October 2009

This was also 7 months after baby killer Billy (William) Middleton got away with his murder

I didn’t know Billy Middleton even existed at this time (20th March 2009)

You and john both posted alot in support of luke mitchell and in many ways similar to some of those posting in support now.

John most definitely posted in support of sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell

Are you referring to the timeline put together by John, which James Easton has reproduced on his new Facebook group?

James Easton - John was a police officer and he put that timeline together from material given to him by scammer Sandra Lean, Corinne Mitchell and media articles

Times have changed, its fair to say from your experience of dr lean you know what shes like now, hence your change of opinion. Its starting to click for others now too? Ive no wish to argue this with you mate! Opinions change with expeirence?

John posted on the WAP forum until I think he was also banned by baby killer Billy Middleton

The times most definitely changed - that timeline was and is awful

John started to recognise fairly quickly that Corinne Mitchell and Sandra Lean were lying - probably his former police officers ‘hunch’

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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4962 on: December 01, 2023, 10:14:34 PM »
The people who have supported LM and the pretend criminilogist Lean will have a lot of soul searching to do, now and in the future. Surely one look at Lean would tell you all you need to know. First time I saw her on Channel 5 and knew straight away she was a wrong un.

    Shock.
    Denial. ...
    Anger. ...
    Bargaining. ...
    Depression. ...
    Acceptance and hope. ...
    Processing loss
    etc

Offline Guiltyascharged

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4963 on: December 01, 2023, 10:16:39 PM »
I first met Sandra Lean in a place called Bury St Edmunds - it was the 3rd October 2009

This was also 7 months after baby killer Billy (William) Middleton got away with his murder

I didn’t know Billy Middleton even existed at this time (20th March 2009)

John most definitely posted in support of sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell

Are you referring to the timeline put together by John, which James Easton has reproduced on his new Facebook group?

No interest in arguing this mate! Its just my word on a internet forum. My point has been made.  I read your blogs and posts  8((()*/

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4964 on: December 01, 2023, 10:19:21 PM »
Do you also think Donald Findlay “revealed” a future possible ground for appeal when he was referring to Shane Mitchell’s police interview?

I think even by the time SM was called as a witness, DF knew the game was up. SM's testimony, and AT's utter dismantling of it, was in all likelihood the moment that sealed LM's fate; it was the prosecution's metaphorical cherry on top. AT reflected on the immediate aftermath of the trial in an article for the DR (it's still available online and is dated Feb 14th, 2005) and said he was in no doubt whatsoever that he got the right killer. The fact that all of LM's subsequent appeals have failed is testament to just how watertight the prosecution's case was and how successfully, skilfully and effectively AT presented it. Still, I'd like to see the context in which SM, during his 6-hour police interview on the morning of 14.04.04, answered police: "He couldnae have been in if people have seen him."