More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case

[Vertigo Swirl]

I've just had to close the front room window just in case someone walks past & reports an abduction.

Why would they do that?  Has one of your (non-existent) children disappeared?

[barrier]

And no proof that The McCanns killed their daughter and disposed of her body.

Nor anyone else , come to that.

[Anthro]

I am pretty sure tht the Mccanns also reported that the shutters were down all the time they were there, day and night.

With their understanding of the safety of shutters why should they bother if the window was locked or not?

The shutters were down.

I agree, Sadie. Also, Maintenance was called to fix the shutters at the back of the apartment, Tapas side. Hypothetically, nothing prevented them to check/unlock the children’s bedroom shutter. The cleaner could have also opened up the shutters and windows in the apartment, without locking it afterwards.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIO_MOREIRA.htm
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_CLEANER.htm

[sadie]

I have rejected your speculative explanation and repeating it butters no parsnips imo.

Why won't you accept the obvious from various photos, videos and reports.  Those curtains are very cheap and flimsy.  The nets are flimsy too.

Why are you unable to accept official weather records that state it was a gusty evening.  Several different weather stations in the region have given their readings for that evening and YOU will have read them without doubt.  They have ben posted often enough

Gusts of around 20mph were recorded that evening.

Dunno whether the reports are still there

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Right so let’s never hear the “no evidence of an abduction “ mantra again.

Reportedly there was an open window.... and upon that that one piece of hearsay you do not accept any other conclusion other than rare stranger abduction? Mark Harrison saw things somewhat differently as I recall. It appeared to me that he tried to focus the various scenarios that the PJ were hypothesising on.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Under the given circumstance, Yes.  But let's not allow the facts to get in the way.

This is a Discussion Forum so any old rubbish will largely do.

Unless it is Libellous, of course.  You might like to keep an eye on that one.

I can't even fathom out where someone could possibly think I was being libellous. This being a discussion forum I believe different opinions are what's needed.

[Anthro]

Why won't you accept the obvious from various photos, videos and reports.  Those curtains are very cheap and flimsy.  The nets are flimsy too.

Why are you unable to accept official weather records that state it was a gusty evening.  Several different weather stations in the region have given their readings for that evening and YOU will have read them without doubt.  They have ben posted often enough

Gusts of around 20mph were recorded that evening.

Dunno whether the reports are still there

In my opinion, thin curtains is the norm in that sort of climate and resort. Shutters add to cooling down a space. No need for heavy curtains in addition to shutters.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Reportedly there was an open window.... and upon that that one piece of hearsay you do not accept any other conclusion other than rare stranger abduction? Mark Harrison saw things somewhat differently as I recall. It appeared to me that he tried to focus the various scenarios that the PJ were hypothesising on.

it is not the sole reason I think Madeleine was abducted but I do think it is evidence (not hearsay evidence, see Davel’s earlier post on the subject).  Did Mark Harrison rule out abduction then?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

the one that there is evidence of having taken place in Apartment 5a on 3rd May 2007 in PdL.

The one not proven because of a lack of evidence to support the hypothesis. All it seems there was to support the abduction theory is a witness statement that there was an open window. Furthermore those on this forum who appear to most believe the abduction hypothesis are also the posters who tell us the testimony is unreliable because inconsistencies are apparently the result of translation issues.

I don’t know what happened to Madeleine McCann. There is no proof that her parents were involved. For me personally though I am not satisfied that there is anywhere near enough evidence to support rare stranger abduction.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

it is not the sole reason I think Madeleine was abducted but I do think it is evidence (not hearsay evidence, see Davel’s earlier post on the subject).  Did Mark Harrison rule out abduction then?

I very much doubt he ruled anything out but he appeared keen to apply some focus.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

it is not the sole reason I think Madeleine was abducted but I do think it is evidence (not hearsay evidence, see Davel’s earlier post on the subject).  Did Mark Harrison rule out abduction then?

Yes sorry that particular piece of evidence wasn’t hearsay. That was a mistake on my part. The story about the open window came from witnesses testimony.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The one not proven because of a lack of evidence to support the hypothesis. All it seems there was to support the abduction theory is a witness statement that there was an open window. Furthermore those on this forum who appear to most believe the abduction hypothesis are also the posters who tell us the testimony is unreliable because inconsistencies are apparently the result of translation issues.

I don’t know what happened to Madeleine McCann. There is no proof that her parents were involved. For me personally though I am not satisfied that there is anywhere near enough evidence to support rare stranger abduction.

How many times do you need to tell us the open window is not proof of abduction?  Do you see anyone here saying otherwise?  And as Kate McCann has repeatedly told us that the window was open why do you think translation errors are relevant regarding this evidence?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I very much doubt he ruled anything out but he appeared keen to apply some focus.

on what specifically?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

on what specifically?

The investigation.

[Mr Gray]

Reportedly there was an open window.... and upon that that one piece of hearsay you do not accept any other conclusion other than rare stranger abduction? Mark Harrison saw things somewhat differently as I recall. It appeared to me that he tried to focus the various scenarios that the PJ were hypothesising on.

It is on record that according to the PJ the main evidence against the McCanns was the dog alerts... So I dont see Harrison supporting such ignorance