More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case

[Vertigo Swirl]

No single abductor left 5A with Madeleine through the shuttered window. IMO, and that of others who have measured them, it's a nigh impossible task.

Which laws of physics does it defy?

[Robittybob1]

Which laws of physics does it defy?

It is hard to even make a joke of that.    You can't fit a round pig through a square hole.

[G-Unit]

It is hard to even make a joke of that.    You can't fit a round pig through a square hole.

4078    “I assumed it was quite a large window that someone would be easy, it would be easy for somebody to get in and out but that, that’s not the case.”

 Reply    “Well I don’t think so, I mean err a fat person wouldn’t get through put it that way.”
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

[Eleanor]

It is hard to even make a joke of that.    You can't fit a round pig through a square hole.

Oh Gosh.  I am so glad to see you back.  I don't care of what you think of it all.  I bloody well missed you.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It is hard to even make a joke of that.    You can't fit a round pig through a square hole.

You can if the round pig's circumference is small enough.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Which laws of physics does it defy?
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On the MS podcast series there’s an experienced, now retired, former UK detective who explains it based on the height of the window and it’s width plus factor in carrying a sleeping (or waking) 3 year old! IMO it didn’t happen!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Which laws of physics does it defy?
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On the MS podcast series there’s an experienced, now retired, former UK detective who explains it based on the height of the window and it’s width plus factor in carrying a sleeping (or waking) 3 year old! IMO it didn’t happen!

Is that Peter Mac by any chance?

[Brietta]

4078    “I assumed it was quite a large window that someone would be easy, it would be easy for somebody to get in and out but that, that’s not the case.”

 Reply    “Well I don’t think so, I mean err a fat person wouldn’t get through put it that way.”
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

Paulo Rebelo opens the window to Maddie's bedroom

An officer attempts to enter the apartment through Maddie's bedroom window

Correio da Manha - 30 October 2007
Paulo Rebelo was yesterday for the first time at the apartment where Madeleine disappeared from, in Praia da Luz. The new coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) of Portimao led a team of six investigators who, throughout the afternoon, tested several scenarios and even made a possible reconstruction of what happened on the evening of May 3, in the apartment no. 5A of the Ocean Club.

In the company of the team members that he brought in from Lisbon - composed of two homicide inspectors, one from sexual abuse, another that is experienced in robberies and two specialists in technical analysis - Paulo Rebelo tried to find details and loose ends that may open new leads or confirm the existing ones.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id21.htm


If you are using Diane's statement to suggest the window was too small for entry or exit you obviously haven't had sight of these pictures which sort of contradict the impression you seem to be reinforcing.

There is not a burglar living or dead who would not be able to get through an aperture of that size whatever country in the world s/he was operating in.

[Lace]

4078    “I assumed it was quite a large window that someone would be easy, it would be easy for somebody to get in and out but that, that’s not the case.”

 Reply    “Well I don’t think so, I mean err a fat person wouldn’t get through put it that way.”
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

Did  Mrs Fenn have different sized windows in her apartment?   She said she caught a burglar and he exited through the window.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Did  Mrs Fenn have different sized windows in her apartment?   She said she caught a burglar and he exited through the window.

The burglar wasn't carrying a child that was nearly four years old.

[Anthro]

Did  Mrs Fenn have different sized windows in her apartment?   She said she caught a burglar and he exited through the window.

Yes, and Brückner’s friends call him ‘the climber’.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Paulo Rebelo opens the window to Maddie's bedroom

An officer attempts to enter the apartment through Maddie's bedroom window

Correio da Manha - 30 October 2007
Paulo Rebelo was yesterday for the first time at the apartment where Madeleine disappeared from, in Praia da Luz. The new coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) of Portimao led a team of six investigators who, throughout the afternoon, tested several scenarios and even made a possible reconstruction of what happened on the evening of May 3, in the apartment no. 5A of the Ocean Club.

In the company of the team members that he brought in from Lisbon - composed of two homicide inspectors, one from sexual abuse, another that is experienced in robberies and two specialists in technical analysis - Paulo Rebelo tried to find details and loose ends that may open new leads or confirm the existing ones.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id21.htm


If you are using Diane's statement to suggest the window was too small for entry or exit you obviously haven't had sight of these pictures which sort of contradict the impression you seem to be reinforcing.

There is not a burglar living or dead who would not be able to get through an aperture of that size whatever country in the world s/he was operating in.

I was talking about the window as an exit point.... but thanks for the excellent link. It also states:

Jon Corner was quoted in the Daily Telegraph of 07 May 2007:
 
'Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said she telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught.
 
He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.'
 
"They had left the apartment locked while they were having their meal, but when they went back the last time they saw the damage."
 
*
 
The shutters of all the apartments are old and heat-affected and would mark very easily if forced, yet, as can be clearly seen, there is no damage at all to the shutter in question.
 
This can be seen even more clearly by following this link
 
It's also worth observing, from the link above, that the bedroom window appears to operate in a similar way to the patio doors at the rear of the apartment. There is one fixed pane and the other pane slides behind it. This would surely make the removal of a child by this route even more difficult and time consuming for an 'abductor' who we would assume wanted to get out as quick as possible. Using the front door to escape, or the 'open' patio doors, shrouded in darkness, would surely have been a much more sensible, and less conspicuous, option.
 
Link to complete Daily Telegraph article quoted above

[G-Unit]

I was talking about the window as an exit point.... but thanks for the excellent link. It also states:

Jon Corner was quoted in the Daily Telegraph of 07 May 2007:
 
'Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said she telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught.
 
He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.'
 
"They had left the apartment locked while they were having their meal, but when they went back the last time they saw the damage."
 
*
 
The shutters of all the apartments are old and heat-affected and would mark very easily if forced, yet, as can be clearly seen, there is no damage at all to the shutter in question.
 
This can be seen even more clearly by following this link
 
It's also worth observing, from the link above, that the bedroom window appears to operate in a similar way to the patio doors at the rear of the apartment. There is one fixed pane and the other pane slides behind it. This would surely make the removal of a child by this route even more difficult and time consuming for an 'abductor' who we would assume wanted to get out as quick as possible. Using the front door to escape, or the 'open' patio doors, shrouded in darkness, would surely have been a much more sensible, and less conspicuous, option.
 
Link to complete Daily Telegraph article quoted above

Philomena, Gerry's sister, still thought on 9th May that the apartment had been locked;

They were going back to check into a locked apartment, where they had left their kids sleeping, you know.
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id250.htm

[Vertigo Swirl]

I was talking about the window as an exit point.... but thanks for the excellent link. It also states:

Jon Corner was quoted in the Daily Telegraph of 07 May 2007:
 
'Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said she telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught.
 
He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.'
 
"They had left the apartment locked while they were having their meal, but when they went back the last time they saw the damage."
 
*
 
The shutters of all the apartments are old and heat-affected and would mark very easily if forced, yet, as can be clearly seen, there is no damage at all to the shutter in question.
 
This can be seen even more clearly by following this link
 
It's also worth observing, from the link above, that the bedroom window appears to operate in a similar way to the patio doors at the rear of the apartment. There is one fixed pane and the other pane slides behind it. This would surely make the removal of a child by this route even more difficult and time consuming for an 'abductor' who we would assume wanted to get out as quick as possible. Using the front door to escape, or the 'open' patio doors, shrouded in darkness, would surely have been a much more sensible, and less conspicuous, option.
 
Link to complete Daily Telegraph article quoted above

This bit was not written by a Telegraph journo but by some anonymous sceptic blogger.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

This bit was not written by a Telegraph journo but by some anonymous sceptic blogger.

Torygraph journo or blogger it's still a fair point.