More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case

[G-Unit]

Erm...Amaral did?

Did he say PJ or police?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did he say PJ or police?

Erm…what’s the difference?
Here’s what he actually said

“I have been told by colleagues, who are retired like me, that they had come knocking on the door. That person was not at home,” Mr Amaral said in an interview on Portuguese TV on Sunday night”.

Now as he worked for the PJ who do you suppose his colleagues were?

[Vertigo Swirl]

And reply came there none.

[Carana]

Erm…what’s the difference?
Here’s what he actually said

“I have been told by colleagues, who are retired like me, that they had come knocking on the door. That person was not at home,” Mr Amaral said in an interview on Portuguese TV on Sunday night”.

Now as he worked for the PJ who do you suppose his colleagues were?

My recollection is that the GNR did most of the plod work of knocking on doors, etc.,  as part of their search effort and the PJ interviewed (formally or informally) a few people known to have committed sexual or other serious offences.

The legal summary and final report seem a bit blurry about which force actually knocked on doors.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

Although the PJ may have visited a few places, I find it plausible that the GNR (plus other civilian agencies and volunteers) did most of the door-knocking (around 400 residences?), but what did they note? The address? The names of the occupants? Then what did they hand over to the PJ? A list of all the places they'd been to with "no sign of the missing minor". Did the PJ take any of that further?

[Vertigo Swirl]

My recollection is that the GNR did most of the plod work of knocking on doors, etc.,  as part of their search effort and the PJ interviewed (formally or informally) a few people known to have committed sexual or other serious offences.

The legal summary and final report seem a bit blurry about which force actually knocked on doors.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

Although the PJ may have visited a few places, I find it plausible that the GNR (plus other civilian agencies and volunteers) did most of the door-knocking (around 400 residences?), but what did they note? The address? The names of the occupants? Then what did they hand over to the PJ? A list of all the places they'd been to with "no sign of the missing minor". Did the PJ take any of that further?

If you’re right then that would be another example of information gathering by the GNR that appeared to be filed in the bin alongside Totman’s statement.  I wonder who was responsible for co-ordinating the investigation between the two forces…?

[Carana]

If you’re right then that would be another example of information gathering by the GNR that appeared to be filed in the bin alongside Totman’s statement.  I wonder who was responsible for co-ordinating the investigation between the two forces…?

The, erm, coordinator?

[G-Unit]

My recollection is that the GNR did most of the plod work of knocking on doors, etc.,  as part of their search effort and the PJ interviewed (formally or informally) a few people known to have committed sexual or other serious offences.

The legal summary and final report seem a bit blurry about which force actually knocked on doors.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

Although the PJ may have visited a few places, I find it plausible that the GNR (plus other civilian agencies and volunteers) did most of the door-knocking (around 400 residences?), but what did they note? The address? The names of the occupants? Then what did they hand over to the PJ? A list of all the places they'd been to with "no sign of the missing minor". Did the PJ take any of that further?

There's a recorded incident in November 2007, when police tried to find Brueckner for non payment of a fine. That sounds like a GNR job to me (uniform rather than plain clothes). The address they had wasn't in PdL.

[Mr Gray]

There's a recorded incident in November 2007, when police tried to find Brueckner for non payment of a fine. That sounds like a GNR job to me (uniform rather than plain clothes). The address they had wasn't in PdL.

It's of little or no importance apart from another possible example of poor policing by the  PJ and I don't think we need anymore.. Perhaps the truth will come out when Wolters finishes his investigation

[Vertigo Swirl]

There's a recorded incident in November 2007, when police tried to find Brueckner for non payment of a fine. That sounds like a GNR job to me (uniform rather than plain clothes). The address they had wasn't in PdL.

So in your opinion did Amaral make it up, re: police visiting Brückner’s home shortly after Madeleine went missing? 

[G-Unit]

So in your opinion did Amaral make it up, re: police visiting Brückner’s home shortly after Madeleine went missing?

Who knows? Only one visit is recorded.

[Mr Gray]

Quite possible that Amaral was simply making it up as he went along.. Hr does seem to have a history of it... What does that say for his ability to co-ordinate the investigation... And the veracity if his book

[Vertigo Swirl]

Quite possible that Amaral was simply making it up as he went along.. Hr does seem to have a history of it... What does that say for his ability to co-ordinate the investigation... And the veracity if his book

Not much IMO.  Good to see that some sceptics are prepared to face up to the possibility that Amaral is not to be trusted.

[G-Unit]

Quite possible that Amaral was simply making it up as he went along.. Hr does seem to have a history of it... What does that say for his ability to co-ordinate the investigation... And the veracity if his book

Very few of people tell the whole truth the whole time. Therefore I've never made the mistake of believing everything anyone involved in this case has said.

[Mr Gray]

Very few of people tell the whole truth the whole time. Therefore I've never made the mistake of believing everything anyone involved in this case has said.

Do you think you are the only person who doesn't believe everything.. Anyone has said in this case.. I think that's common sense but it doesn't mean you have not believed some things that are not true.. And disbelieved some that are

[Vertigo Swirl]

Very few of people tell the whole truth the whole time. Therefore I've never made the mistake of believing everything anyone involved in this case has said.

Apart from the Tapas chef who claimed the group had all left the table by 9.20pm