More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case

[G-Unit]

just how naive can you be?   What is Portugal’s top police chief angry about then?

Perhaps he didn't check the reported contents of the statements with their actual contents.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Perhaps he didn't check the reported contents of the statements with their actual contents.

Yes, I’m sure the police chief simply accepted what the media reported, didn’t bother to check with his colleagues despite professing his anger at them and needlessly humiliated himself and his force by apologising for the leaks.  Yes that must be it, because the two reports were so massively at variance, one using the word “we” and the other using the phrase “Sean and I”. 

Give it up G-Unit, you’re defending the indefensible. 

[G-Unit]

Yes, I’m sure the police chief simply accepted what the media reported, didn’t bother to check with his colleagues despite professing his anger at them and needlessly humiliated himself and his force by apologising for the leaks.  Yes that must be it, because the two reports were so massively at variance, one using the word “we” and the other using the phrase “Sean and I”. 

Give it up G-Unit, you’re defending the indefensible.

This is what Telecinco reported was in the 4th May statements.

Kate;

“While we had breakfast Maddie said: Mummy, why didn't you come when when we were crying last night?" (...) Gerry and I talked for a couple of minutes and decide to watch more for the children at night ".

“When I went to see Maddie I realized that she was not there. I looked in the whole apartment, returned to the children’s bedroom and at that moment I saw the curtains moving towards me making visible that the blind was opened up. I moved towards the window and I opened the curtains to see if she had climbed out through there but I saw no traces of her. I don’t know if I closed or not the window at that moment." , reports Maddie's mother.”

Gerry;

“When I came to the apartment I was surprised that Kate had dealt with the children and she even had douched them. I sat down with the children and read them a story" , Gerry stated.

The first one in checking condition of the children was Gerry himself. "I noticed that the angle of the door had changed and that it was opened some 45 degrees (…) perhaps Maddie had woken up and gone out of the room. I looked obliquely in our room but I saw that Maddie was not (...). I opened the door 60 degrees, looked at the left and saw Maddie asleep
https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/04/horrifying-story-of-madeleines-parents.html

What the statements actually say;

Kate;

She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. (no mention of closer watching of the children, and no mention of going to the window and opening the curtains)

Gerry;

No mention of being surprised that Kate had bathed the children and no mention of the angle of the bedroom door.

[Carana]

They'd possibly mentioned the incident during one of those informal interviews they had in the beginning.

[Carana]

You are wrong.

There is nothing theoretical about the very long list of nasty and dishonourably underhand leaks to the press which are a feature of Amaral's time as an investigator, of which those I listed are but a few. 
One of the later ones you seem to have adopted as your very own cause celebre which caused as much embarrassment to the new Portuguese investigation as it did to the McCanns when their confidential witness statements were leaked to the press.

Police chief tells of anger over 'crying Maddie' leak
By DANIEL BOFFEY

Last updated at 22:35 12 April 2008


Portugal's top policeman has told friends of Kate and Gerry McCann of his regret that witness statements by the couple were leaked to the media.

One excerpt suggested that on the morning of her disappearance, Madeleine said: "Mummy, why didn't you come when we were crying last night?"

The couple were furious and have accused the Portuguese police of attempting to slur them as they approach the anniversary of their daughter's disappearance on May 3.

The leak to a Spanish television station overshadowed the McCanns' visit on Thursday to Brussels where they called for a European rapid alert system for abducted children.

But it was revealed yesterday that Alipio Ribeiro, national director of the Policia Judiciaria, had interrupted interviews in Leicestershire with the "Tapas Seven" to tell the McCanns' friends of his own anger at the leak.

Mr Ribeiro returned a day early to Portugal on Friday after several days interrogating the friends who were on holiday with the McCanns in Praia da Luz last year.

A source said: "The matter came up in the interviews with Kate and Gerry's friends and Ribeiro was embarrassed by it.

"The leaks came as he was out of the country and he was angry about it. He also referred to it when speaking with Leicestershire police."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559297/Police-chief-tells-anger-crying-Maddie-leak.html


The leak was of no importance as far as finding what had happened to Madeleine was concerned. 
As far as I can see there were two bonuses for those who orchestrated the leak

• to slur the McCanns
• to embarrass the new investigation put in place after Amaral was sacked which had taken a firm line as far as conducting a professional investigation was concerned

I think both those aims were achieved at the time.
What I can't fathom is what your aim is as you doggedly latch onto this frippery, apart from frustration at watching everything campaigned for over the years going up in smoke.
Maybe you will enlighten us; but who really cares - it is an irrelevance saying much more about you than anything else.

There's also the timing that's fishy - the day they were in Brussels campaigning for an EU-wide missing child alert.

[Vertigo Swirl]

This is what Telecinco reported was in the 4th May statements.

Kate;

“While we had breakfast Maddie said: Mummy, why didn't you come when when we were crying last night?" (...) Gerry and I talked for a couple of minutes and decide to watch more for the children at night ".

“When I went to see Maddie I realized that she was not there. I looked in the whole apartment, returned to the children’s bedroom and at that moment I saw the curtains moving towards me making visible that the blind was opened up. I moved towards the window and I opened the curtains to see if she had climbed out through there but I saw no traces of her. I don’t know if I closed or not the window at that moment." , reports Maddie's mother.”

Gerry;

“When I came to the apartment I was surprised that Kate had dealt with the children and she even had douched them. I sat down with the children and read them a story" , Gerry stated.

The first one in checking condition of the children was Gerry himself. "I noticed that the angle of the door had changed and that it was opened some 45 degrees (…) perhaps Maddie had woken up and gone out of the room. I looked obliquely in our room but I saw that Maddie was not (...). I opened the door 60 degrees, looked at the left and saw Maddie asleep
https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/04/horrifying-story-of-madeleines-parents.html

What the statements actually say;

Kate;

She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. (no mention of closer watching of the children, and no mention of going to the window and opening the curtains)

Gerry;

No mention of being surprised that Kate had bathed the children and no mention of the angle of the bedroom door.

Do you SERIOUSLY expect us to believe that Kate said nothing more than that Madeleine had asked her why she had not come when they were crying, that she added no further detail, just one short sentence about the incident?  How many hours was she interviewed for?  Did Telecino claim they had been given copies of the statements or were they told verbally what Kate and Gerry had said? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

They'd possibly mentioned the incident during one of those informal interviews they had in the beginning.

Amazing that we’re discussing statements made by the McCanns over 14 years agon on a thread entitled “Most recent developments related to Madeleine McCann’s Case”.  I guess some people feel more comfortable poring over ancient history than contemplating the here and now.

[G-Unit]

They'd possibly mentioned the incident during one of those informal interviews they had in the beginning.

According to Telecinco they were quoting from the statements.

[Vertigo Swirl]

According to Telecinco they were quoting from the statements.

And who was responsible for taking the statements and keeping them secure?

[G-Unit]

And who was responsible for taking the statements and keeping them secure?

The PJ were and they did, imo. Anyone who believes Telecinco were quoting from the McCann's statements is easily fooled imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The PJ were and they did, imo. Anyone who believes Telecinco were quoting from the McCann's statements is easily fooled imo.

So Telecino were lying but the chief of police still apologised for the leak?  You’re not making any sense. I presume you must therefore consider that the PJ’s chief of police is easily fooled.

[Carana]

According to Telecinco they were quoting from the statements.

I wonder if there was a recording? The written statements are just a summary of what's said - they're not verbatim.

[G-Unit]

I wonder if there was a recording? The written statements are just a summary of what's said - they're not verbatim.

I think you need to accept that Nacho Abad was not quoting the statements given on 4th May, which is what he claimed to be doing.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think you need to accept that Nacho Abad was not quoting the statements given on 4th May, which is what he claimed to be doing.

I think you need to accept that he was very obviously tipped off by someone from within the PJ, now I wonder who that could have been….? 

[G-Unit]

I think you need to accept that he was very obviously tipped off by someone from within the PJ, now I wonder who that could have been….? 

He quoted from statements made on 4th May 2007 which he claimed to have in his possession. The quotes were NOT in those statements.