Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.

[Vertigo Swirl]

On one hand? 6

Not very good at counting then....

[Angelo222]

Wolters took it upon himself to make public claims which he was unable to support. By doing so he raised doubts about his credibility.

He announced a murder, then said maybe not.
He announced a phone call received in Luz, but didn't understand the range of the mobile phone towers.
He said he'd contacted the McCanns and they publicly denied it.
He publicly accused CB of murder, which is forbidden under ECHR.

Not a track record to be proud of or which inspires confidence in him imo.

Wolters thought that by going public with his unsupported claims that somebody would come forward and provide new evidence.

Massive fail

[Mr Gray]

You're the one pushing the idea on here, so you're the one who needs to justify it on here.

Did you watch the channel 9 doc. She raised the possibility after interviewing wolters.  Her thought process exactly the same as mine

[Mr Gray]

Wolter thought that by going public with his unsupported claims that somebody would come forward and provide new evidence.

Massive fail 🤣

Utter tripe

[jassi]

On one hand? 6

                        V  surely

[Mr Gray]

Wolters took it upon himself to make public claims which he was unable to support. By doing so he raised doubts about his credibility.

He announced a murder, then said maybe not.
He announced a phone call received in Luz, but didn't understand the range of the mobile phone towers.
He said he'd contacted the McCanns and they publicly denied it.
He publicly accused CB of murder, which is forbidden under ECHR.

Not a track record to be proud of or which inspires confidence in him imo.

Your interpretation of the facts

[misty]

German police have ben seeking witnesses to CB's movements on 3.5.07 between 2100 & 2200hrs on 3/5/07 for at least 18 months now. For those who think the unreliable Busching is he only person to whom CB made some sort of confession, you're wrong.
https://www.asteriscos.tv/noticia-62505.html
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It was when the German was in a bar with his Portuguese friend Diego Rivera and they saw on television a note about the 10th anniversary of Maddie's disappearance. Brückner told Rivera that he knew everything that had happened in the McCann case. And then he showed the video of the rape to the American retiree.
Then the friend called the police, but at that time there were not enough elements to incriminate him.

What did advance was the investigation into the sexual abuse of the 72-year-old woman, which was confirmed when Brückner's DNA tested positive with a raised hair from the scene.

The three policemen - German, British and Portuguese - are now looking for witnesses to try to clarify where the suspect was on the day of the little girl's disappearance, on May 3, 2007, between 9:10 p.m. and 10:00 p.m.

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It's highly improbable MWT, given his restricted access to BKA evidence, has been able to find a reliable witness who'd provide CB with a solid alibi when police have failed to do so.
I'm with Davel on the photo issue. IMO the phone is crucial to BKA because of data found on devices elsewhere. I think there is a picture/video of (probably dead) Madeleine in a sequence of other photos/videos taken by CB & featuring him both before & after Madeleine disappeared. Facial recognition software could have been used to confirm her identity.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I already did. Nobody who has an interest in this case really believes in this 'miscarriage of justice'; they believe in sticking the boot in to Amaral. It's a device, not a conviction.
It's like Flat Earthers, you can't have a flat earth and a moon landing, so they have to disregard both.
Creationists - Dinosaurs.
IMEPO

To bring things slightly back on topic, do you consider Mark Williams Thomas to be a morally devoid, Flat Earther with a burning desire to stick the boot into Amaral?

“Former Surrey detective Mark Williams-Thomas said: "This controversial case (Joana Cipriano) must be re-opened - there are huge doubts over the convictions.

"The fact that there's another missing-child case so close to where Maddie disappeared just three years ago, that should be ringing alarm bells. There's not a single case in the UK where two children who are unknown to each other have been abducted or disappeared within a period of four years in a seven-mile radius.

"There must be a link. It certainly has to be a serious line of inquiry."

[The General]

German police have ben seeking witnesses to CB's movements on 3.5.07 between 2100 & 2200hrs on 3/5/07 for at least 18 months now. For those who think the unreliable Busching is he only person to whom CB made some sort of confession, you're wrong.
https://www.asteriscos.tv/noticia-62505.html
*snipped*
It was when the German was in a bar with his Portuguese friend Diego Rivera and they saw on television a note about the 10th anniversary of Maddie's disappearance. Brückner told Rivera that he knew everything that had happened in the McCann case. And then he showed the video of the rape to the American retiree.
Then the friend called the police, but at that time there were not enough elements to incriminate him.

What did advance was the investigation into the sexual abuse of the 72-year-old woman, which was confirmed when Brückner's DNA tested positive with a raised hair from the scene.

The three policemen - German, British and Portuguese - are now looking for witnesses to try to clarify where the suspect was on the day of the little girl's disappearance, on May 3, 2007, between 9:10 p.m. and 10:00 p.m.

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It's highly improbable MWT, given his restricted access to BKA evidence, has been able to find a reliable witness who'd provide CB with a solid alibi when police have failed to do so.
I'm with Davel on the photo issue. IMO the phone is crucial to BKA because of data found on devices elsewhere. I think there is a picture/video of (probably dead) Madeleine in a sequence of other photos/videos taken by CB & featuring him both before & after Madeleine disappeared. Facial recognition software could have been used to confirm her identity.

So essentially there's no evidence of any value still. Hence why there's no charges being brought. Total inertia for 20 months. Potentially some images that can't place CB at a scene, that may or may not be MM, on a hard drive that they can't link to CB forensically, under a dog that might have once been fed by CB, near a caravan / hut allegedly once used by CB, corroborated by a phone call to someone in Luz prior to the incident, placing him (or his phone) within approximately 1000sq km.
Quite how he hasn't buckled under the weight of evidence and thrown his hand in is surprising.

[The General]

To bring things slightly back on topic, do you consider Mark Williams Thomas to be a morally devoid, Flat Earther with a burning desire to stick the boot into Amaral?

“Former Surrey detective Mark Williams-Thomas said: "This controversial case (Joana Cipriano) must be re-opened - there are huge doubts over the convictions.

"The fact that there's another missing-child case so close to where Maddie disappeared just three years ago, that should be ringing alarm bells. There's not a single case in the UK where two children who are unknown to each other have been abducted or disappeared within a period of four years in a seven-mile radius.

"There must be a link. It certainly has to be a serious line of inquiry."

I said those who frequent this forum and expressed an opinion.
MWT? Well it hasn't been established that MM was abducted and it has been established that Joana wasn't. So he's just plain wrong, but he looks like he's about to improve his batting average.

[misty]

So essentially there's no evidence of any value still. Hence why there's no charges being brought. Total inertia for 20 months. Potentially some images that can't place CB at a scene, that may or may not be MM, on a hard drive that they can't link to CB forensically, under a dog that might have once been fed by CB, near a caravan / hut allegedly once used by CB, corroborated by a phone call to someone in Luz prior to the incident, placing him (or his phone) within approximately 1000sq km.
Quite how he hasn't buckled under the weight of evidence and thrown his hand in is surprising.

I think you'd agree that's rather a lot of fairly damning circumstantial evidence. notwithstanding confessions to at least 2 other people. Still, why would CB buckle? He has a top-notch lawyer batting for his side with seemingly unlimited financial backing & all those other "minor" crimes like accidental homicide being divulged by his associates may require further representation.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I said those who frequent this forum and expressed an opinion.
MWT? Well it hasn't been established that MM was abducted and it has been established that Joana wasn't. So he's just plain wrong, but he looks like he's about to improve his batting average.

Your post makes little sense.  Why is MWT let off the hook but people on this forum are not allowed to share his opinion without being accused of all sorts of ridiculous nonsense?  Your faith in the Portuguese justice system is quite touching but I just wonder why you simply refuse to countenance even the possibility that in the absence of any hard evidence at all that Joana was not actually murdered, cut up and fed to the pigs by her Uncle?  I am not committed one way or the other wrt to the Ciprianos' guilt or innocence by the way, I just think it's worth another look.  If that makes me guilty of being all the nasty things you've levelled at me (indirectly) today then so be it.  I can just take the abuse (despite my fragile mental health as diagnosed by your good self Dr. General).   

[The General]

I think you'd agree that's rather a lot of fairly damning circumstantial evidence. notwithstanding confessions to at least 2 other people. Still, why would CB buckle? He has a top-notch lawyer batting for his side with seemingly unlimited financial backing & all those other "minor" crimes like accidental homicide being divulged by his associates may require further representation.

This 'rather a lot of fairly damning circumstantial evidence' may as well be no evidence at all without more of it.
Which is the point. 20 months after the last-ditched, desperate public appeal and really all he has added is a few dodgy eye witnesses.

[The General]

Your post makes little sense.  Why is MWT let off the hook but people on this forum are not allowed to share his opinion without being accused of all sorts of ridiculous nonsense?  Your faith in the Portuguese justice system is quite touching but I just wonder why you simply refuse to even countenance even the possibility that in the absence of any hard evidence at all that Joana was not actually murdered, cut up and fed to the pigs by her Uncle?  I am not committed one way or the other wrt to the Ciprianos' guilt or innocence by the way, I just think it's worth another look.  If that makes me guilty of being all the nasty things you've levelled at me (indirectly) today then so be it.  I can just take the abuse (despite my fragile mental health as diagnosed by your good self Dr. General).   

You were cracking up laughing at my repartee earlier. Now this.

[Mr Gray]

This 'rather a lot of fairly damning circumstantial evidence' may as well be no evidence at all without more of it.
Which is the point. 20 months after the last-ditched, desperate public appeal and really all he has added is a few dodgy eye witnesses.

If all that's, true at least you csn sleep soundly knowing you're not going to look a complete ass when the truth comes out